Notre Dame NOW Ep

The first episode of the podcast "Notre Dame Now" features hosts Lubianca Gaetan and Nicholas Kendall discussing the end of winter and the start of spring. They mention the success of the winter sports teams and upcoming guests from boys basketball, boys baseball, and mock trial. The hosts then interview coach Sheik Morris and player Pablo Puma about the boys basketball season and their experiences. They discuss the challenges and successes of the season, as well as special memories. The hosts also quiz the guests on basketball trivia. The episode concludes with an interview with Brandon Sanchez and Anthony Elias from Notre Dame Baseball, where they discuss their love of the sport and how they got started. Hello! Here we are at Notre Dame Now. Notre Dame Now, our very first podcast here at Notre Dame. Official podcast. Official podcast. Oh yeah, official. And this is our first episode. I'm your host, Lubianca Gaetan, and I'm the co-host, Nicholas Kendall. We're just... We're your hosts for Notre Dame Now. This is great. It's our first episode and we're gonna have some guests on for sports and how winter is just rounding up, it's finishing. This is great. How do you feel about spring, Nico? Spring? Yeah. What's your favorite thing about spring? Summer. Summer? The fact that summer's coming closer? Yeah, because I have spring allergies. It's the worst. Oh really? I never had spring allergies. It's the worst. It's swim season. I love swim, but it's swim. I want water polo, uh, personally. I love water polo. Is it golf or is it... It's all right, yeah. It's winter for girls. Yeah. Overall, really good winter season. You know, I miss winter. Um, I want it back. It was really short. It felt short. It was a hot winter. Yeah. For some reason, you know, I was not happy about that. I think you only had maybe, what, like a week out of the whole entire winter? No, it was actually cold. Um, but yeah, spring. When I see spring, um, my first thought is it's almost summer. Okay. Oh, and then of course Lent and Easter. I always, I never really think of Lent. I forget about Lent, but I do remember like, I forget Easter too for some reason, but I mean, I remember them like, like Catholic wise. I remember them, but I don't remember them like just throughout the year, just randomly, you know? I know. I was like, oh, it's an April Easter year or it's an East, it's a March Easter year. That's how I think about it. But overall, I think our winter sports did really well this year. Is Easter in March? Easter's on the 31st this year. Really? Yeah. Oh my God. I didn't know that. It's on the 31st. Oh, okay. Um, so, uh, yeah, I think our winter sports did really well. Uh, basketball, you know, made it to state. That was really good. That was really impressive. They did much better than us, in my opinion. They did, because I went through like, like the last couple of games and like, you could really tell the improvement as well as like the coordination between the, like the, the guys on the team and everything. So you could really tell that. Definitely. Yeah. You can see that. Uh, we're going to have Mr. Morris and Puma on. Yeah. Talk about that. It's going to be really fun. They have their own little insight on that. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then we have boys, baseball, boys, baseball, getting ready for the spring season. Yeah. We have Brandon Sanchez and Anthony Elias, a freshman and one of the managers. Yeah. That's going to be, it's going to be fun. You know, uh, don't know what to expect for it, honestly. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. We'll learn a little bit more about like what their experiences is there. Like maybe why they, why they, why do you even get into baseball to begin with? You know, like why did he choose to be a manager? Why did they choose to be a player? You know? Yeah. And then we'll finish off with a mock trial. Yeah. They're very esteemed guests. Frank, Francis Kramer, Frankie Kramer, and then Ashley DiGennaro. There's a lot around campus. Yeah. They, they both do. They're both very involved in like, like they do a lot. And they help to like really push, especially like Ashley, for example, who's an ASB. She's like really, um, you always get her like assemblies and stuff, you know, or on the announcements every single day. Yeah. Yeah. PC pres. Um, so yeah, that's going to be our guest today. It's going to be a fun episode. We're going to see where we go with it. Yeah. So let's, let's get started then. Two special guests joining us from boys basketball, including please tell us your name. Coach Sheik Morris, Pablo Puma. And today we're going to be talking about this past boys basketball season, which did really great compared to last year. So tell us a little bit about that. Um, you know, we've just, we've just been working really hard. You know, we, we dealt with a lot of conflict, some injuries, but we ultimately got to play in the playoffs and yeah, it was a goal to put up a banner. So nice. Yeah. Um, coming in and being the first year here, uh, there was a lot of things that we didn't know. Um, so it was almost like, um, you know, hit and miss with different things, but I think the first portion of the season was the most difficult because we, we just didn't know what pieces we had and, and who we had, but, uh, as it started to come together, I think we started to piece some things together and got, got pretty far. Pretty cool. Um, what would you say was one of those things that really helped you get that season going after like the first half? I think it was, uh, the continuity. Um, like at first, like I said, I think a lot of players just didn't even know the system. They didn't know the coaches. It was brand new coaches, brand new players. Um, we didn't know one another really like that. Um, and when you bring like a nucleus of people together and you're trying to get them to all go into one goal, um, people were trying to identify what their role was. Um, like Puma here, um, understanding that he was going to have to be a point guard and a shooter, but that was thrown in his lap by one of our players getting hurt. So, um, Juwan, he, he injured his hand and then that thrusted him into that same position. So like there was so many different nuances that, that happened. And I think by the time that we all kind of got on the same page, then we started to be able to gel, but it took a little time. So Puma, this is your last year as a senior. So how did you, how'd you feel about it? Like everything? Uh, you know, we had a good run. Uh, it was nice to like leave with something tangible, some success. Uh, the first three years we weren't really successful. So it's just nice to finally start winning, change the culture of the program. That's good. So is there any special memories that you guys have from this season? Don't say it. Don't say it. Um, honestly, just, just being around with this group of people, like they're like really, they're like family now. So, but is there like a specific memory? Um, sit down, man. Okay. I mean, on the bus before the game, before we became league champs, actually, and, um, Yuri and Kaden got into it on the bus and, uh, coach, she came over and he was like, sit down, man. You know, it's just something we quote, like, it's just like an inside joke. So now when you hear the basketball team walking around and out of the blue ear, someone say, sit down, man. That's what that, that's where that came from. But there were a lot of memories to be honest with you. Um, um, if you look there's on, I think it's on Instagram now, one of the photographers that was shooting for us, um, kind of captured some of the things that we did and I didn't know that they were going into the locker room and kind of catching some of the things that you guys were doing, like before the game and guys were talking to one another and dancing a little bit, trying to stay loose. Um, I think this, this season is going to be very memorable for years for a lot of guys. They're going to remember this. Definitely. Do you think you've left something behind like next year? Do you think your team will do as better if not better? Oh yeah. I think, uh, we have a chance to win it all next year. Honestly. Um, I'm really excited to see what Kayden does next year. She puts, she has to bring, you know, it's a, it's really nice to see what they're going to do. Yeah. I'm not going to touch that. I don't want to jinx anything. I just want to make sure we come in and do hard work. Well, now I want to surprise you guys with a little something. So since we're talking about basketball, we have a little bit of basketball trivia, so we'll see how good you guys are. Ready? So number one, which player holds the record for the most points scored in a single NBA game? Will Chamberlain. That's correct. Okay. One point to Mr. Morris. Which NBA team has the most championships? It's tied. Lakers and Celtics. No, or did the Lakers just beat them? Did the Lakers? 17-17. I thought this one was tied. No, it was, it was, it was Lakers and Celtics tied. But the last one that they just won, I think it might be the Lakers. At least the Lakers or Celtics. We have Celtics written down. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I thought they were tied. I thought they were tied. We'll double check that. We'll double check that. Okay. And who is the youngest player to win the NBA MVP award? I'm going to say LeBron. No, MVP award youngest. That one, that one has me. MVP. Now, if you would have said the, the MVP finals, I would have said Magic Johnson, but, but yeah, I don't, I don't know that one. Uh, it is Derrick Rose. He won at 22 years old in the 2010-2011 season. D-Rose. D-Rose. You're my guy. Now that, that's embarrassing. Okay. And who was the shortest player to ever play in the NBA? Muggy Bugs. No. Is it Muggy Bugs? It is Muggy Bugs. Do you know how tall he was? He was 5'4"? 5'5". 5'3". And which player popularized the Skyhook shot? Oh, Kareem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kareem Afujabwa. Good job guys. All the questions from his generation, man. Come on now. You make it sound like he's old. I'm old, but I get that. Okay. Well, thank you for being here with us and joining us. We really appreciate it. All right. Thank you guys. Yeah. Go Titans, man. Next guest, uh, we have Brandon Sanchez and Anthony Elias. Anthony Elias here from Notre Dame Baseball. What's up everyone? Hey guys. All right. Uh, so we got a couple of questions for you. So what made you think like, wow, I love baseball like so much. Like what, what got you started baseball? Uh, when I was like four years old, I think I was watching the Dodgers, my favorite team though. Uh, I forgot what player it was, but I saw him make a diving catch. I was like, holy smokes. That was sick. So I wanted to do that. And I just asked my dad, can I get a bat? And then he said, yeah. And then that's just when I started playing ever since then. Um, I think like baseball for me is like a different perspective because I'm a manager. So it's like mainly I'm helping the team out in a different way, but it's also fun to see like the baseball players play their heart out every game. And it's fun to just be out there in the dugout. All right. So what made you decide to actually be manager? Like what do you want to do it? Um, I think because especially since my freshman year, I want to get involved in so many things, but I also want to do fun things like with my friends. And since a lot of my friends are playing baseball, I think that's the perfect opportunity for me. That's great. So after like, say games and stuff, you guys have like a, like a typical ritual, something that you guys do, like you go out to eat at like the same place. Or is there something that you guys always do? Um, we don't really do anything after the game. We just, we usually just move as a team, like the beginning and then towards the game. And then we just leave as a team, but we have like these, these bonding like team moments where like, we're going to a ranch soon, like, uh, I think next week. And then we're going to have like a house party and all that. We usually bond like outside of school. Yeah. Okay. What are, what is like a memory of your, what are your bonding sessions that you guys, I guess it just stuck with you? We went to a ranch last year. Uh, it was fun. We had basketball. We played one-on-ones. I lost to, not to Andrew, that was two years ago. I lost to, um, to Riley Mitchell. That was, that was, that was not fun. But then we got to throw hatchets and then we got to like, like learn how to lasso like bulls and all that. But it was a pretty fun experience. And I think for me it was like, I think it was the most recent one, but going to In-N-Out because like after we got the, our first dub, like our first win, went to In-N-Out and we were all really hungry. So it helped. And even on the van rides, like being in the bus with my friends or in the van with my friends, just jamming out to songs. That was really cool. That's great. Um, now, uh, off season plans aside, do you have anything that keeps like the baseball spirit alive? Just like when you're just not during baseball? Not during baseball. Uh, I play water polo. Like that keeps me in check. So I don't get like lazy. So I also do that. I also like train, train off season with like, uh, personal coaches and I also do travel ball. So I don't really take a break from baseball. I just keep going. You're not like slacking off or anything? Um, for me, I don't really know cause it's my first season, but like on the off season, I'm just going to go back to football, but still hanging out with everybody now. And it's just, I think as we get older, we have to build the team bond for next season. And, um, so since you're a freshman and you're a junior, you guys are both kind of, you're starting off with things you're like in the midst of the heavy. So how do you guys manage, I guess, school? Cause I know baseball takes a lot of time out of your, like your everyday life. How do you manage schoolwork and stuff like that? Like what would you tell other people so that they can, I guess, manage sports as well as like your academics? Uh, I would say, uh, you need to get it done earlier than normal. And you also got to like communicate with your teachers. That's important. Cause I also do ASB and that helps you learn how to like manage time and not like procrastinate and, uh, shows responsibility in your work. And, um, that's about it. I mean, yeah, I think communicating with teachers is key because especially the teachers at ND, like everyone is like so caring, like they'll understand. So as long as you talk to your teacher and be honest with them, they'll give you an extension for anything that you need. Okay, cool. Now we have some trivia time to test your baseball knowledge. Okay. First question. Who holds the record for most career home runs? Yeah. With? Do you happen to know how many? No, I don't. 762. Okay. How many career home runs do you have? Career? Uh, I think around 10 max. You're getting there, man. You're almost there. You're almost there. You're really, really close. All right. Uh, which MOV team won the first ever world series in 1903? I think it was like something socks. It was either the black socks or red socks. Which one? You gotta pick. You gotta pick. Black socks. No, wrong. Red socks. The Boston Red Socks or, you know, at the time they were actually known as the Boston Americans and they were defeating the Pittsburgh Pirates at the time. All right. Number three. Who is the first player to break baseball's color barrier by becoming the first African American MLB? It's Babe Ruth, right? Oh, okay. You're absolutely wrong. Yeah, you're so right. You're so right. Actually, who is it? It's Babe Ruth. There's Jackie Robinson. There's who else? Guys, my baseball knowledge is not there. It's the first one. It's only one person. You can't like say whatever. It's the first one? What does that mean? It's not the first one. You were the first player. Yeah, I know, but he... No, I don't mean like the first one. What? I don't mean the first one he said. I mean like the first player. The first player to break baseball's color barrier. You gotta pick one. I gotta pick one? Which one is it? I think Brandon knows it. Choose the one you think. Choose the one I think. Well, you said I was wrong. You said you got this. Well, I thought I had this. Guys, I'm just a manager. Yeah, but you should be like in there with your baseball knowledge. You should be like... Jackie Robinson? Yeah. Good job. Good job. That's like the best match in history. Yeah. We need to touch up on that. Okay. Number four. Which pitcher holds the record for most strikeouts? Oh, that's a hard one. I don't know. Do you want to guess? Like, just guess. I have no guesses. Yeah, I got nothing. So it's Nolan Ryan with 5,714 strikeouts. Have you struck out before? Have you struck out before? I definitely have. Not my proudest moment. I don't count how many strikeouts. You don't focus on the negatives. You gotta write all that down, how many strikeouts. Actually, we have the stats. You want to check on Max Press, but we won't get into that today. All right, last question. Who holds the record for highest batting average in the MLB in history? These are tough questions. Highest batting average? Yeah. Is the batting average a thousand? You wrote down the question. No. Then what's the batting average? No, like who holds it? I know, but do you know it? What's the batting average? It's 0.366. That's it? I don't know. Okay, well, it's Ty Cobb. I'll be honest with you. I don't watch baseball. I don't either. She wrote down the question. I have no idea who it is. Anyways, thank you for coming. Thank you so much for being here, and good luck on the rest of your season. Thank you. Are we making it to CIS this season? It's a work in progress at the moment. We're getting there. Our team needs to build up. Well, good luck, and thank you for coming to our third segment now, and we are joined by Mock Trial. Tell us who you are. Hi, I'm Ashley DiGennaro. I'm a senior here at Notre Dame. Hi, I'm Frankie Kramer, and I'm also a senior. So, we know that you guys got second place in county, right? It was a good run. You know, you guys did really good. We're all really proud of you. That's huge. So, what was the team's reaction when you saw you came in second place? I mean, I know it's not first, but you guys still got pretty far. So, what was your guys' reaction? Okay, so funny story, actually. I didn't think we were going to make it past the third round. So, I think making it to just be able to compete in the championship round was a huge deal for us, because we were the first Mock Trial team at Notre Dame to compete in department one in the historic courthouse. So, it's a really big deal for us. Obviously, we were kind of upset that we didn't win. I mean, also, I think we have to realize that we're also a really young team. A lot of us, this was our second year, and a lot of these kids have been doing Mock Trial all four years, or have parents that are lawyers that coach them at home, or have judges at home. They can just ask questions. A lot of us, this was just our second year. So, I think in a couple years, I think we could come in county. I think next year we're in county. I mean, that's where. They all went in county. In our name. In our name, yeah. So, yeah. Okay. So, take us through like a typical prep for like, I guess, Mock Trial and stuff. Are there any funny moments, anything that you guys remember in particular? Okay. So, Mock Trial, we actually start practicing like early on September. So, we're practicing from September. We don't compete until January. So, basically, like the end of January, early stages of that. So, what we're doing, basically, is to give you a simple little rundown. You have to, you get your case material, and it's a fact pattern, basically, and it contains like witness statements, and then like pre-trial motion, and all like the facts, stipulations, whatever. And then, based on that, students and our coaches help us create like direct examinations, cross-examination questions, statements, and then pre-trial has their own thing. So, basically, over the course of that time, you're just memorizing and like understanding everything beyond like just like. Just beyond your script. Just your script. So, like when you actually compete, like you have a super solid understanding of everything, and I think that's why we get so far is because we don't just memorize, like we really understand everything we're saying, and I think that just takes us to another level. Yeah, for the first couple months, we just practiced Monday through Wednesday for about two hours, and then once, I think, after Thanksgiving break, then we start going Monday through Thursday for three hours every day until competition. So, I mean, honestly, it's just a lot of work. You know, we practice at the school. We practice at the Riverside Historic Courthouse, and then the Department of Justice, too. So, yeah, I like to get comfortable in the courtrooms, know what we're doing, where our movements are supposed to be, where we're supposed to say certain questions, or things like that. And it's, I'm really, we're really fortunate that we have coaches, and Coach Eric has access to these courtrooms, so we can practice in them pretty much whenever we want. And then, like for a little game day routine, basically, we all just like get to the courthouse an hour before the round. We go meet in Eric's courtroom. He has like the most, one of the most beautiful courtrooms in the historic courthouse. And then we have like a bunch of snacks, and we just like eat, and we chill, and we talk. Lawyers are usually like going over their directs, just talking to themselves. They're going over objections. Witnesses, either just rereading their witness statement. Most of the time, they already know what their, they already have it memorized, so they know all the facts in their witness statement, so they don't really need to do anything. They just need to relax. And then we circle up around like 530. We say our prayer. We hold hands around the council table, and then we do a big loud cheer. Either defense is going, then we say not guilty, and then prosecution, we say guilty. And then we get two lines, and we walk out, and we don't say anything. We're just very serious. It's a very funny thing we do. It's not funny. It's actually, it's serious. We like can't talk once we leave the courthouse, because we want to like seem as professional as possible, because I mean, we're like intimidating lawyers. We're like, we're cosplaying as lawyers. So we have to like be super like serious, and it's just so funny seeing everyone like laughing and screaming, and then as soon as they tell us to get in lines, we all just like, like complete silence, like walk out, straight face, like. It's funny, but I love it. Yeah. All right. Facing tough opponents can be a little nerve wracking at times. You can agree on that. Yeah, that was scary. Any close calls or moments where you thought, uh, oh, we've got this. This is like, we've got this. Yeah. Like, you're like, sure of it. You know, you're going to beat them. Probably when we played Valley View for prosecution defense, when you guys played. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think when we go against teams who aren't necessarily like not good, they're just like, they don't have like the opportunity of like attorney coaches like we do. So I think just our basic understanding of the law kind of is when I feel most secure, knowing like a team is just memorized because it just feels like a different, like, I don't know, it's kind of hard because you don't know, like, normally when you play sports, like you'd be like, oh, this team is really good. Yeah. But like, you can't really know in my trial until like, you're actually competing in my trial. So really not, I don't know. I know. Cause you have like your reputation. Polly, Marietta Valley, Notre Dame, all of us have a good reputation in mock trial and mock trial world like that. We're good. Yeah. But like other schools, like schools that we don't really know about, like you don't know until you're in the courtroom with them. Like the judge hasn't come in yet. Like scoring attorneys were waiting on them. Yeah. And so it's really nerve wracking, especially for playing like a good school. But sometimes when you hear them say certain objections or you hear them talk or you hear them miss something, you're like, oh, that's like, then that's when I feel confident. I'm like, okay, I'm all in because I know. I feel like I know housekeeping. Yeah. Like it's just like tone, like presence is so like, like presence is so powerful. Like if you, I don't know, that's just, never judge a book by its cover. But like sometimes like you just know, like, you know, I think honestly, my child's a lot of faking it. Yeah, really? No, it really is. Sometimes you can even convince judges you're right when you're wrong. Exactly. All right. Question here. How has being a part of mock trial changed your perspective on law or just debating skills in general? Oh, my gosh. Like mock trial, literally, like, I'm not even joking, like shifted my entire like life plan. Like, I remember, I wanted to go into pre-med, and I did mock trial. And I just was able to see like, the like, at first, I didn't exactly know what like lawyers did. Like, I don't know, like, I just like, oh, like, they go to court, but I think like meeting attorneys, like the scoring attorneys, and then like meeting judges, and like even our coaches, just like hearing about what they do, like what their daily, like, like, day's work is, I don't know. It's just like, so fascinating. I think it's so much more complex than I would have ever, like, imagined it to be. So yeah, it like completely shifted, like my whole career pathway. So I would highly suggest mock trial. I mean, that's cool. Yeah, for me personally, I feel like I didn't, I didn't have like a big revelation. I didn't change my career path. But I think that it gave me more insight to what other jobs are out there. And I think that if I didn't want to be a doctor, I would definitely want to be a lawyer. And it's just super interesting. Debating skills, I also feel like it's helped me a lot. Like we have, sometimes we have debates in like AP Lit. And like, it's helped me to have like a page in line or to have like certain specs, like nailed down, like a tone, there's like certain tones you can use when talking to people. If you want to be argumentative, if you want to be, you know, more like kind, there's just different ways to talk, different ways to present your ideas. And I feel like mock trial has really helped in that. Yeah, definitely tone. Tone is just, yeah, public speaking in general, like skyrocketing. Yeah, for sure. Because you're talking in front of real life judges, real life attorneys, real adults who went to law school, who are most of the time educated and know the law pretty well. So sometimes at first, it's intimidating. But after a while, it's just like, well, there's just like a judge, right? Pretty cool. All right, now we have trivia time to see how good you guys are. Okay. First question. What rights were established for individuals in the case Miranda versus Arizona? Um, you can answer. I think it's the Fifth Amendment. No, wait, yeah. Anything that you use, that you say, whatever you say can be used against you in court, aka the stand-in for party opponent. Okay, sorry, I was like going over the whole mock trial tangent. Also, I mean, Miranda, Miranda, right? Yeah. Yeah. What is the difference between a direct cross, a direct and a cross examination? Oh, easy. Okay, so direct examination would be like, Ms. Clark, what did you do next? And then a cross examination question would be like, you went to the supermarket, correct? So basically leading, not leading. Yeah, so direct examinations are for your own witnesses, and then crosses for the other witnesses. Like the opponents? Yeah. Okay, cool. What is the purpose of the opening statements? Okay, I think, no, I'm just kidding. I don't think, I know. It's to like establish the facts or to kind of paint a story before any of the witnesses are called to the stand to kind of describe what the case is about. Yeah, definitely not like argue. Like I know, I hear a lot of opening statements, sometimes they're trying to argue their case. Opening it is supposed to lay out the facts for everyone to have a good understanding of the case before the case actually starts, right? Because they can't have like, for example, for prosecution, our first sentence was detective. And I can't just ask her like, you can't just like, okay, prosecution is ready to present their case. Detective, where were you? Like, yeah, like some kind of story. Okay, that's great. Yeah, that's right. Okay. What does the term your dire mean? Perfect. So that wrong? What? So V o i r, space d i r e. I don't know. Justice something. I don't know. I don't know. I don't see. I'm I think that's it. Very much. They like kind of pick the scoring attorneys. So yeah, we're also supposed to argue to the judge. We don't argue to the attorneys. The attorneys, they act like a jury, but they just rate on how well we talk or how well sometimes not really not even so much presented case. I mean, it's just how confident you are, how well you can argue your argument. You're supposed to be arguing to the judge. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure everything is in order. All right. Last question here. What is the what you write? What is the burden of proof of prosecution in a criminal case? The prosecution basically pursuant to I don't know. Basically, the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something. So that's their burden of proof. So they have to prove to the court beyond a reasonable doubt that someone committed the crime they're being charged for. And if they can't and they didn't meet their burden of proof. So, for example, in our case, Toby Clark definitely murdered Karen Sunshine. And so as a prosecutor, you had to bring out all the case or all the facts and all the evidence and show like Toby Clark was a murderer, like the fingerprints were on the murder weapon. You know, he was seen by two witnesses heading towards the victim's suite around the time of the death. They were arguing there was fraud. And so that's our burden of proof and showing that the defendant is guilty. But it's also kind of difficult in a criminal trial. You can't give defense perfect evidence, right? There's like the fingerprints. Yeah, like she handed her the saber that same day. So you can't give everything to prosecution because it's just like a slam dunk for prosecution. So really, like the evidence is like, it can go either way. It can literally go either way just how you argue it. So you mostly then like, I guess, a score based on like how well you argue? I think so. Yeah. Because everybody knows the mock trial evidence is pretty bad. Yeah, it's not like accurate. Yeah. Now as seniors, how do you guys feel about this being your last year? I was really sad. I didn't compete last, but I was kind of bummed that my last competition, I didn't do as good as I wanted to. But at the end of the day, like, it taught me a lot. My biggest regret was definitely not starting my freshman year. I think mock trial, like, I definitely want to like pursue like a similar, like, move court mock trial thing in college. So I think it was super influential. On me, I think for our mock trial team next year, they're going to be amazing. I mean, Adrian and Grace, our pre-trial attorneys, they're already getting gold medals. Yeah, their sophomore year. So I imagine like their senior year. Their first year pre-trial and they place their like, beat like everyone. Out of 23 schools, the 23 kids, they beat them. Both of them. And then our attorneys like Anna, Natasha, Sam, like, they're solid. They're so good. Whoever steps up next year as a lawyer will be a champion. Yeah, our coaches, honestly, like they train, like they teach us so well. Like you can, it can be your first year mock trial. And like by competing season, you have like, like a better understanding of the law than someone who like from another school who's been competing for like four years just because of how much like time and dedication they put like into like teaching us everything. So I highly recommend mock trial for anyone, because like, even if you're scared, like, oh, like, I'm not gonna be good. Like you will be good. Like you will. Like, yeah, like, I agree. Well, thank you for coming. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having us. And that was Notre Dame now. All right. Um, that was pretty great. Honestly, learned so many things about such like all of our really cool like activities here at school. It was great. Yeah, definitely. I gotta say my favorite guest was Mr. Morris. Really? Yeah, I got home. I don't know. He's like, he's walked in. He was like, yeah, like a nucleus of people. I was like, yeah, you you're so right, man. Bring together like this nucleus of people. You got to know what you're working with. He also got like all the questions right. He did with the trivia. That was crazy. Great. I personally liked I like the mock trials. They were they I mean, I didn't I like like the legal aspect of things or learning about more about like the legal side, especially of our government and stuff. So I like their insight on everything, seeing how like you see mock trials from any of these sports, like you see them from afar. But like, when you actually have an insider perspective, you start to see Oh, well, there's more to it. Like you see more of a personal way of looking at it viewing it. Definitely. Yeah. Oh, I thought baseball was really fun. You know, it was very interesting. Learning how like, Brandon got into baseball when he was little, you know, watching TV, right? He was watching TV. I think, for chance. If we're wrong, Brandon, we're really sorry. We just have awful memory. But yeah, it was good. It was good. So overall, I thought it was a really fun episode. Yeah. Can't wait to do another one. And guys, stay tuned for it because it'll be great. It'll be cool. It'll be another day now. Thank you.