Punting is winning Episode 15

The hosts of the Punning is Winning podcast discuss various topics related to the Iowa Hawkeyes. They talk about recent commits in men's and women's basketball, as well as their observations from the spring scrimmage. They also mention the highest draft pick from the University of Iowa and provide updates on the softball and baseball teams. The softball team is struggling with a nine-game losing streak, while the baseball team had a successful weekend with a three-game sweep against Rutgers. The hosts express hope for improvement and discuss upcoming games. Welcome to the Punning is Winning podcast, just two fans talking all things Hawkeyes. Here are your hosts, J.D. and Keith. Welcome back, Hawkeye fans, to Punning is Winning. We are on episode 15, put a milestone there, too, I think. Today we're going to talk about the question of the week last week. We'll discuss the baseball and softball, and then we'll talk a little bit about a couple of commits that happened on the basketball court for one for women's basketball, one for men's. And then we'll go over our observations of what we saw at the spring scrimmage yesterday and who we thought stood out. There are a couple of one commit, preferred walk-on committed yesterday out of North Dakota, offensive lineman from Southeast Polk. And the other interesting tidbit of news is there's a Missouri State wide receiver coming up for a visit on Tuesday. I know a lot of people might say Missouri State will be, but it had 71 catches for almost 1,000 yards last year, and based on what I saw from numbers, looks like he runs about a 4.340. So that might be one of those guys that's hard for Deacon Hill to overthrow. So we'll see. We'll get into that when we talk a little bit more about the spring scrimmage, or spring practice, I don't want to call it a scrimmage because it's not a full scrimmage. It was more drills, situational type stuff. So question of the week last week was, what was the question of the week last week? Who was the highest draft pick? Yes, who was the highest draft pick? With Kaitlin Clark going number one on Monday, who was the next highest draft pick, men's or women's, out of the University of Iowa? And I guess this was kind of a layup for people with recency bias, please, any favor to them at all. You wouldn't have to look, no. The answer was obviously Keegan Murray going fourth two years ago. And he has had a very, very solid start to his NBA career. They had the play-in game the other night, first play-in game, and I think he scored 32 in that game against Golden State. So he's atoning for himself well. And Chris Murray was actually starting to get some more playing time towards the end of the season with Portland, and his stats started to pick up. It wasn't quite where he was probably expecting to be, but I think getting some actual playing time there towards the end of the season helped him out. He finished, I think, the season average at about five and a half, six points a game. But over the last couple of weeks, he was averaging more like 11 or 12 a game. So good for him and good for Keegan to be handling the league like he is and being in a situation. Unfortunately, they did get bounced out of the playoffs in the second play-in game for the 8-9 game by, who was it that beat him out, New Orleans, I believe. So not a magical repeat of last year where they did make it in, but, you know, hey, he's got a bright future ahead of him, I think. I like you at Sacramento, don't get me wrong, but I think there's a lot of players, and this is probably true at every NBA club in the league this year, there's a lot of me-me-me first guys. Darren Fox is kind of a me-first guy, putting up, you know, yeah, he puts up 35 points a game or something like that, but he's taking 40 shots a game, you know. And you look it over and Keegan's an efficient 14 points on four or seven shooting or something, and it's like, why don't you let him shoot more, get him the ball? But, you know, some guys have to be the show and that's just the way it is. And, you know, if they say, I'm getting paid the big money, that's what I have to do. So whatever. I think he would benefit from being in a different system, maybe a little bit more team-oriented system instead of a me, but I don't know if you're going to find that in the NBA too much. But enough about the NBA, we don't cover the NBA, and honestly, I don't follow it other than the Iowa connections. So let's talk a little bit about, let's talk about the baseball and softball over the weekend. Both were at home this weekend. Softball, we'll start with them. Not doing so well. Softball's not looking good. Yeah. They just dropped three more to Indiana. They are now currently on a nine-game losing streak and have lost 10 of their last 11, put them at 16 and 21. Yeah. I kind of expected more out of these guys. I thought they would be a little bit better season. This weekend, they just weren't competitive. I think 8-0, 8-1, 7-2 type of games. I don't know if there's injuries or what, but there's got to be something going on. They were very competitive early in the season with some very decent, some very good teams. And now all of a sudden, they're just not competitive with anyone. Right. It's disappointing to see, but hopefully they get it figured out, get it back on track. I don't expect much the rest of the season, but they need to end the season on something so that they can look forward to next season with something to build on. Yeah. I don't think they have a whole lot of games left at this point. They need to make sure that they do well in the games that they do have left. I think if I remember right, yesterday, listening to the scoreboard, it was the advertisements that said about five more home games left. So I'd say maybe there's probably, what, 11 to 12 games left in the season. Yeah. They could be on the road for a while, too, and then come back. Who knows? Yeah. I haven't looked at the schedule ahead. I haven't looked at the schedule either. So, yeah, they need to get some things picked up and figured out. I feel confident that they'll have that during the next year. I think it sounds like they have a pretty solid recruiting class coming in next year, too. So it sounds like they're a young team, too, and that makes a huge difference. Kids who are high school coming into college and they're used to playing those 20 to 25 game schedules, and now they've got to play 40 to 50 games. It's taxing, and you know it as well as I do, that that is a huge leap for people. It is, and it's a situation where you have to maintain your conditioning to stay strong through the season because it's very easy to get tired, and it's, I mean, believe me, I did. I got tired, too. I don't know if it was mentally tired or physically tired or a combination of the two, but a long season gets to a person. I don't know how these pro athletes do it. They just must have the best training staff on earth, and they have nutritionists, and those are the things that some of the athletes, especially below the Division I level, do not have. So they have to kind of do that on their own, but at the Division I level, they should have people that are helping them with their nutrition, their conditioning, and their training. They're after going into the training room and getting ice baths or whatever the case may be that they need. So yeah. Yep. Yep. So hopefully they get that figured out and can turn it around, maybe build something to build on at the end of the season going into next year or so, but again, like I said, I think they are a young team, too, and that does make a huge difference. So you can start out hot, and then you hit a slump because you're just not used to stuff. So again, hopefully they figure that out, and they get moving on. So let's touch a little bit on the baseball team over the weekend. They had a three-game set at home against Rutgers. Yeah. They did well. It was a productive weekend for them. Yep. They won 8-1 on Friday, 15-5 on Saturday, and then today they won 5-1. So three-game sweep of Rutgers. That puts Iowa at 22-15 overall and 9-6 in the conference and firmly in fifth place. So if the season ended right now, they would make the Big Ten tournament, and when you get in the tournament, all bets are off. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. Get some timely pitching, timely hitting, and you could find yourself sitting right there at the championship weekend. So let's just pray for good weather and get healthy, find the strike zone, and Iowa might be talking about who they're playing in the first round of the NCAA tournament, but they have to win the Big Ten tournament first. At this point, yeah, they'll have to win the Big Ten tournament. I don't think they'll get an Adelaide. I don't think they're going to get an Adelaide. Unless they just sweep through the rest of the season, they can end up like 32-15. They might, because they did have a very tough schedule at the beginning of the year. Early, yeah. High RPI. But yeah, very good weekend for them. Looks like guys got back on track. Maybe there's a sense of urgency that Coach Heller put into them, and hey, guys, the time for figuring things out is over. We need to be pushing forward and we need to be doing better than what we're doing. You've said it before. He's a pretty good motivating guy as far as he's a player's coach and knows the right things to say to get you fired up. It sounds like that might have been the case, and maybe the guys are just starting to get healthy again. Brody Brecht had that oblique strain and had some rough stretches there, and today he pitched really, very well. Maybe guys are starting to get a little bit healthy again, and they just had that rough stretch in the middle of the season there. They've got some tough games coming up. They've got Nebraska over there. Nebraska is sitting right now, I think, second or maybe third in the conference. If you take care of some business over there, that's just going to spring you forward, too. I think Northwestern then comes on the schedule later on, and I think you can take some games there. Although you don't want to take Northwestern lightly, they're capable of sweeping you. They're all capable of that. You just got to stay on top of your game. Like you said, sense of urgency, absolutely. At this point in the season, they all matter. Every one of them, at this point forward, matters. They do have Illinois, a three-game set with Illinois, who is on top of the conference right now. You could make a statement there, too, if you can lay it up to the caliber. That would look good to the guys looking at the field and the selection committee. That would definitely raise some eyebrows. As they say with the basketball, they look a lot about how you play at the end of the season, too. Especially as the northern teams, you're starting to get into a little bit nicer weather, and they're able to do more outside, so they're getting more practice time in. They're getting more comfortable. The ball flies a little bit differently in the warmer weather than it does in the cold. Granted, yesterday was not a very warm day to be up there playing baseball. You know what I'm saying is, and that's the other thing about Iowa. We've had an uncharacteristically very windy April. That's usually a March thing. April's usually kind of calm, but March is usually very windy. It's kind of been pushed back a little. This has been a very, very windy and cooler April than normal, I think. We had a few days in there where we had upper 70s, 80s, which is unusual, but then we had freeze warnings again. Again, that's weather in Iowa, and if you don't like it, just wait a day. It'll change. Wait six hours, it'll change. That's correct. So moving on from the outside sports, let's touch a little bit up on the inside. After the season's wrapped up, had a couple of visitors on campus this past week. One for the men's side, one for the women's. We'll touch on the men's side first. We had Drew Belwell from Morehead State. He's a point guard, 6'3 point guard. Averaged about 11 points a game, 4.5 assists. Looks to be, number-wise, looks to be a solid guy. Maybe a little bit more than what you were going to get out of maybe a DeSante Bowen. Probably not as much as you were getting towards the end of the season. The last couple weeks of the season, we weren't getting much out of Tony Perkins at that point. But prior to that last little stretch, Tony Perkins was probably one of the top-scoring guys on the team at that point, so you're not going to get quite that production out of him. If you can get 11, 12 points a game out of a guy and he can dish the ball, and it looked like he was very much an assist-to-turnover guy, so the turnovers were fairly low. I did do a little research on him. I did watch extended highlights of the Illinois game, the first round of the NCAA tournament at Morehead State. And then I watched the championship game of the Ohio Valley Conference tournament. I did take kind of mental notes. Some of the things I noticed about—we'll talk about Morehead State and their style first. They use the clock, not a lot of up-and-down. So they're a little opposite of Iowa's style, because Iowa likes to run. It didn't look to me like Morehead State was a running team. I think if they did have a breakaway, of course, they would take it. But they were the type of team that ran on offense every time down. They settled for—it was a lot of late shot clock shots, and there were a couple of times when they were playing in the Ohio Valley Conference tournament that they actually ran out of shot clock and had to turn the ball over. One thing I did notice, he's a very good ball handler, but I didn't see a single rebound in any of the game, either one of the NCAA tournament game or the championship game of the Ohio tournament. But he's going to be a serviceable player. He's going to handle. He's going to dish. He's going to have to step up a level. This is high division one. This is a Big Ten conference now. You're just going to have to learn the speed of the game. And don't get me wrong. They played with Illinois very well for the first probably 16 minutes. Even the second half, they played through all the way up to the 16-minute mark, left in the game. Well, no, it was like eight minutes left in the game, and they started to kind of fade a little bit. Illinois' talent level just kind of took over at that point. Well, I saw you out at the gym, too. I like the kid. He's not going to throw you into the closet with beautiful stats, and he's just going to be a serviceable player. I'm not sure you're going to ever see 16 and 7 assist a game out of him. I don't think he's that kind of player. Maybe the style they played, too. I think the style they played, too, didn't contribute well to his stats because they were a lower-scoring team. Like I said, they ran late shot clock shots a lot of times. They don't get up and down like Iowa will. So he's going to have a learning curve, too, to run and get out and go that he didn't have the first three years he was there, or four years he was there, if he's using his scope. And that might be the key, the catalyst for him. It might be. He might be more of a run-and-gun style kind of guy, and he just was stuck there because he just didn't have the options and didn't feel like, well, I could probably be a high major kid until he's a grad transfer, basically. I think what's going to happen is you're going to see about a 20-minute, 20-minute split with him and Harding. I think that's what you're going to see. And that's fine. No, it is fine. There's nothing wrong with that, and I'm happy to hear that or say that. But if you can keep the guys, like at the end of the season, guys get tired. If you can run these guys 20-20, each one of them 20 minutes, they're only going to be healthier and stronger at the end of the season because they're not running 35-38 minutes a game. That's definitely, that'll take it out of you. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. So, transitioning over to the women's side, we had a recruit in on campus on Tuesday as well, Lucy Olson out of Illinois, who was a very, very highly sought-after transfer. I think she was probably, from what I last saw, that she might have been like the top five player in the transfer portal this year for the women's side. She came in, she's a point guard, I believe, 5'9", if I remember right. Correct. And third-leading scorer in the country this year, behind Kaitlyn Clark and Gigi Watkins. Yeah, I think she averaged 23-3, so yeah. I don't know if you guys remember last week, but I predicted that she would be in a Hawkeye uniform at the end of the season, or before the season started. I didn't really know, I didn't have any advanced warning of anything that was going to happen. I just, I looked at the situation with her, and I just knew that Iowa would be an excellent fit for her. And I just was hoping that she would see it as well. And I know that Lisa was pretty high on her, from everything I had heard. So I thought, if Lisa puts her best foot forward, Lucy wants to be in this style of game situation, back in the Midwest. She didn't want to go to the West Coast, apparently. That's something that she let out to people. And she preferred to stay on the East Coast, is what I heard. East Coast and Midwest. I'm kind of surprised that she didn't take that trip to Maryland. And I think Yukon was in on her, too, a little bit. I don't know if they pursued her quite as hard as Iowa did. But to commit the day after her visit, hey, that tells me Lisa's on the stage, she's getting it done. Was it the day after, or was it the day of? I thought it was the day. Well, I found about a day after. Yeah, it was the day after, right. Yep. Yeah, it was on Wednesday that we found out. She might have committed to Lisa, you know, verbally that night, but it didn't get out to everybody else till Wednesday. Right. So, yeah, I'm very excited for her. She's going to help out a lot. And like I said earlier, I said, we had Maddie Scherer was coming in as well, out of Kentucky. She was scheduled for a visit. And, you know, we talked about how it was going to be one of those situations where whichever one committed first is going to get that scholarship. So there was just the one open. And, you know, Iowa is one of three teams, the Iowa Duke and Indiana are the only three teams on the women's side who have had no transfers out. So that kind of tells you a little bit about the culture as well. But, you know, it certainly didn't hurt to have her in the day after Kaitlyn Clark goes number one and then signs a $20 million shoe deal. That never hurts. No, no. And, you know, you've got that ability to sell that of, you know, you don't want to tell her, you know, you can be the next Kaitlyn Clark because nobody ever wants to be that, have that pressure put on them. Let her be Lucy Olsen. Yeah, be Lucy Olsen and do your thing, but do it in our system. Look what Kaitlyn Clark could do in our system. Yeah, and you have a little bit more leniency when it comes to shooting. And one of the things that we need to talk about is her, is it's kind of her game is more of a mid-range game. I mean, in her junior year or was it her sophomore year anyway, she had a little bit better three point average than she did last year. But I think she was required, because you remember, was it Maddie Segrist? Who was that? Maddie Segrist, yes. Yeah. She was the head of her that, and then gradually- She actually led the country in scoring last year. Right. So when you're behind the leading scorer in the nation, then the next year you take over and you're third in the nation, that's a system that benefits you. And I think that would also benefit her being in Iowa, because I think that's the same style of system that you can take shots and almost as a free will to do what you need to do and not be pigeonholed into a system that requires you to be a cog in a machine, whereas you can be more of an individual in Iowa. Right. And it's interesting that the men's and women's team both operate basically the same. They're both free-flowing offenses. They're both up and down. And I think based on what we've seen, my observations watching the two, the men seem to have a little bit better handle on ball security. Again, no knock on Kaitlyn Clark. She had a lot of, she didn't have a lot of turnovers, but she had the court vision that she saw things that others didn't see. And she was trying to get, she was a step ahead of everybody. And sometimes she was a step ahead of her own teammates. You know, when you're as good as you, as Kaitlyn Clark is, when you're a coach, you sit back and just kind of, you have to accept the bad with the excellent, because sometimes you're right. Kaitlyn did have issues with turnover. She would try to throw a pass that wasn't maybe the best idea and it would be intercepted or it would lead to a turnover of some sort. Maybe you lead a person too far and they're running too hard and they just step over the line or they travel. Sometimes passing was not always, I mean, she was a great passer for the most part, but there were times that ill-advised passes. But you take that, you take that with 32 points a game and her ability to see the court, change the game, even though when she's drawing the best defender that the other team has, every game, night in, night out. And their whole game philosophy was to stop Kaitlyn Clark. And she still goes off and averages 32 a game. So you live with those mistakes and errors and turnovers that she had. And you just hope that they limit them and you get more good than you do bad. And for the most part, they did. There were maybe a game or two that I thought maybe she went a little overboard, but you live with it. And I also felt there were a couple of times where she was a little too unselfish. You know, she should have, she was trying to hit that perfect assist or something where she could have probably just taken it herself. And it's like, you know, I know some people probably complain, oh, you know, she takes too much shots, whatever. But you're that good. If you're that efficient and you're that good of a scorer, if you've got it, you know, I don't know how to say this, but what I'm trying to say is if the only time you do that is if you could give it up for an even better shot. And sometimes that was the case, but other times it's like, you know, it's like, I don't know if that person's expecting it. So is that an actually better shot? You know, you see, oh, I'm expecting her to go up with the ball. And so I'm going to be trying to get in my rebounding position instead. All of a sudden, boom, it's right at you. And, you know, you fumble it out of bounds or whatever the case may be. And it's like, that's a situation where you just kind of wish you would have just taken that shot. It's a good shot for her anyway. But, you know, it is what it is. And, you know, like you said, you live with the good and the bad. And in her case, there was more far more good than there was bad. So absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah, with the addition of Lucy Olsen, that puts the Iowa men or women's team back up to full strength. I did see a video of Ava Jones out there putting up shots in the gym. Good to see her. I've just absolutely, you know, I can't know that I don't think Lisa's never going to pull that scholarship. Yeah. And, you know, Lisa's always going to honor that scholarship. And I think by doing that, that is a that's a positive thing for Ava is, you know, she still can motivate herself with the hope that I will get on this court. You know, as soon as that you transition to a medical scholarship, because, you know, whether you need that scholarship or not. And again, that's why I think Lisa will never do it. That girl may lose hope and her progress is, you know, totally stopped at that point. And she just gives up, you know. And I think this is the this is the type of thing that keeps her going. And, you know, I love it. I love seeing it because I'd love to see her get on the court. I don't care if it's for a meaningful minute or not. I just want to see her be able to put up a shot, get on the court, get in the official record book at the University of Iowa somehow after what she's been through. That would be a miracle. And it would be that would be a feel real feel good story. And she's going to have time. She's just a freshman this year. And I'm sure they probably put a red shirt on her. I'm not sure. She's going to have three more years to progress through the system and to work on her shot to get back to her health as much as she can. And yeah, it would be nice to see in a game, even if it's five minutes, you know, for a season or whatever the case may be. She needs to get out there. It'd be nice to have Lisa get her out there and let her dribble the ball, let her put up a shot, get something. So she's got some motivation for next season going forward. And watching that video, you can see that there's, you know, she's got the skills. She just needs to remember how to use them. And, you know, as part of that, we don't understand what all she went through. I know she went through there was there was brain trauma in that accident. So it is definitely an inspirational story to see her fighting back as well as she is now. And I just, you know, I pray for her. And I hope that I hope that she does get that. This was not that long ago to have her doing what she's doing in this short of time is really phenomenal. The way she was catching the ball, she was catching the ball like everybody else catches the ball. Now, some of her shots were not the greatest, but that's she's progressing. I she probably six years ago couldn't even it was probably couldn't make one out of every 10. And I saw what I saw in that video is that she was making, you know, maybe one out of every six or eight. And I'm sure that as she progresses and works forward, it's going to get better and better and better and better. It just has to. She said that the interview or whatever, that it's better than it was yesterday. And it's better yesterday than it was a week ago. And now, so I hope the time for her. I would love to see her get some time in meaningful time. That would be a huge, huge feel good story for everybody. Yeah, you know, and Iowa is this is this the University of feel good stories when you talk about this. Yeah, she wouldn't do this without you. I'm going to guarantee you. No. Kim will be speaking folder to go. Speaking of the Kinnick wave, we had the opportunity yesterday to go up for the final spring practice and watch that open practice and do the wave at the probably what about the I don't know about the midpoint of that practice session. Maybe a little before the midpoint. But yeah, yeah, that was good to do. It was good to get up. Yeah, I need a little cardio to warm the extremities up. It was a little chilly up there yesterday. It was chilly yesterday. We didn't take the box that some of the other podcasters that are out there have done or did do. Yeah, yeah, uncredentialed at this point. So yeah, we are we are not sponsored. We are for you out there and no one else. So what did you think? I love the structure of Kirkferd's practices. It's just it's so orderly. It's you know, exactly. I mean, you've gone through these open practices before. It has been, I don't know, probably six years since I've been doing open practice, maybe even longer than that. And it's exactly the same as it was six years ago. The structure is still the same. So there's consistency. You know exactly what you're going to expect. You're never going to get a spring game out of Iowa like you do all these other universities. He just doesn't believe in that, doesn't think it's necessary to put guys in risky situations like that. But it is a controlled practice with life contact. It's not full contact. I would say in some cases it was, you know, it was if you didn't bring them down in the initial tackle or whatever it was, then it was like you're down. But I did like the structure going into it. I think we had some maybe some preconceived notions of what we'd heard from other people about progression of Marco Lainez as far as his quarterbacking ability is the way he throws the ball. Others had said, you know, Deacon Hill looked better. I can tell you our observations probably weren't the same as others. I'll let you go first on what you saw from the quarterbacks. You know, when you have a game or a practice like this, it's really hard to really get a lot out of what they did because they're going to hide stuff. They're not going to give anybody anything to look at for scouting. So it's going to be pretty vanilla. They're going to save the exotic parts of their or the additional parts of their play for other times, maybe more for the fall. But when you're learning a new system, you're learning from a new offensive coordinator who is implementing a new system, it is very easy to get caught up in the, I have to think way too much to try to, it's not easy free flowing out of my head. It's not second nature. So to be honest, I think when you talk about the initial system of Tim Lester, you're looking at two quarterbacks who are new to the system. So in my book, even though Deacon Hill had last year's reps during live games and Marco only got in a little bit at the bowl game when it was well and well decided, you're mixing apples and oranges. So now they're more on an even keel because they're both learning the same system at the same time. What I saw yesterday was I saw a more confident Marco Lainez than I saw a Deacon Hill. Deacon made some mistakes and Deacon threw an interception. He fumbled the ball once and it was knocked right out of his hands like you've seen Minnesota, I think, did it to him and ran it for a touchdown real deep in our end zone or towards our end zone. What I saw was he threw a couple of nice passes, Deacon did, but he also threw some passes that were batted into the air, things that you just cringe when you see that. You saw it last year in some of the games and you cringe. You just, oh my, you can't do that. And he did it again. And I don't know if Tim's going to get that fixed for him, but I'm going to tell you right now, in my book, Marco Lainez is clearly the number two quarterback. That's my thought. I think Cade, and Cade wasn't able to do full go yesterday. He just, I did see him throw passes on the side. He really didn't get involved in any of the actual plays or anything like I said. But you can tell the difference between each player's, how the ball comes out of their hand. Obviously, Cade's got a little more zip and a little tighter, little tighter spiral than the other two. But you got to look at Cade is also 22 years old, probably at this point, if not 23. Marco Lainez is probably just turned 19. So there's a maturity difference there physically anyway, and probably mentally too. And my opinion is you're going to have to get a transfer in quarterback to be the backup or to compete for the starting lineup and the story. I just think that Iowa's biggest need right now, 100%, is to go into the transfer portal and find somebody that is competent enough to take over and or compete for the starting job. That's it. That's what, that's my feeling on the offense and on the quarterbacks as a whole right there. Yeah. And I think with everybody's practice is basically wrapped up at this point, you're going to see that second portal window is going to open. There's going to be more guys coming in the next couple of days. I don't know what's out there at this point. Probably not much. I do know that Cade's brothers are both in the transfer portals from UTEP, one's a receiver, one's a quarterback. So maybe the brothers McNamara are reunited. I don't know anything about these guys. So I wouldn't... What were your thoughts on the quarterback situation then? I agree with a lot of what you said. I thought Marco Lainez had the higher upside. They both struggled at times. And again, I think we saw a very, very vanilla offense. Tim Lester said it in his press conference earlier in the week, you know, before you can write a novel, you've got to learn the ABCs. And I think that's where they're at right now is, you know, you stop and think about the fact this was practice 15. You know, they've been practicing for four weeks, but this is only the 15th practice that they've been in this system. And all they've, you know, they've had times to look at the plays, they've had time to absorb the playbook, learn it, whatever. But they hadn't had times to be out there in live game situations to put those into place. And the other thing that we didn't see is you didn't see an offense that was game planning for a specific defense. It was, we're going to run these plays because these are our plays that we're going to run right now that we're trying to learn and we're trying to get them perfected. We don't know exactly which wide receivers are who are going to run the best routes for which position. So we don't know exactly where we want to put those. So you're still trying to feel that out. And I think you saw that. There's times, you know, we saw guys running wide open in the secondary. And I saw that against the first team defense too. Guys getting open, they've got to have the guy to get the ball to them. And that's where I think the timing's not there yet. They're not, you know, we always talk about the game slowing down for players. You know, it's, especially in the basketball court, you talk about, you know, guys start to get it. You start to see a different player. You know, you always say, oh, the game's slowing down for that guy. Well, it's the same way with a football player. And when that quarterback starts to see things in slower speeds, then that's where you see that they start to turn the corner. And I don't think any of them are at that point yet. And again, I wouldn't expect them to be at that point after 15 practices or at that point 14 practices, we were watching the 15. So, and again, it was a windy day. So you also had the elements that you were fighting. Well, take it with a grain of salt. Just to interject real quick, one of the things too that I thought was very nice to see, it was part of the game that Marco Lainez has that Deacon Hill will never have. And that's the ability to tuck the ball and run. And you did see him do that on occasion where he took the ball and took off and run when the pocket broke down. Deacon would not have done that. He would have just, he would either thrown the ball out of bounds or taken a stack or fumbled probably. But, you know, but Marco took off off the line of scrimmage and just bolted towards the end. In fact, I think he had like a 12 or 14 yard run to the end zone and scored a touchdown. So that's the added factor that Deacon doesn't provide you. And that's something that the defense then has to be cognizant of and almost game plan a little bit for that. Whereas you see Deacon, it's just like those hands are just salivating, waiting for him to drop back so that they can drop him. Yeah, and we saw it with Marco as well. There was one play where he used his legs to extend the play. And I think that's where Abdul-Haj had to grab that kid to pull him out of the way that was out on the field. Otherwise, he's going to get run over. But that's a situation where the quarterbacking situations you have right now, Marco Lainez is the only one that can make that play. And he had the ability to extend that. Now, granted, it ended up being an incompletion, but it didn't end up being a sack. It didn't end up being a 15 yard loss, which outside of him, that probably would have been. It would have been at least an eight yard loss. I don't think, obviously, Cade can't cut, can't do anything like that. So you're not going to put him in that situation anyway. Deacon doesn't have the scrambling ability. I mean, he could probably move to step up in the pocket to avoid some pressure a little bit. But the side to side stuff, he's not going to wow you with his foot speed by any means. And that's an eight to 10 yard loss on that play alone because it happened quick. And Marco was able to spin out of that and rolled right, and then he turned back to the left, and then he came back to the right. And it was nice to see that. Granted, it was just an incomplete pass. But a lot of times, an incomplete pass means you live to fight the next day. A sack means you're playing behind the sticks. And now you've got, instead of second 10, you've got second 20, and you've got to make up 20 yards in a play or two plays. Whereas before, you got to your place to get 10 yards. I can still run the ball. Second 20, it's harder to run the ball. But pushing on to the running backs, I really was impressed with Kamari Moulton. I know LeSean Williams did not play. He's got to deal with an ankle injury. I was also very impressed with Terrell Washington. Not so much out of the backfield, but out of the slot. He was a very good, competent pass catcher. I think if he wants to split the time out there for a year until LeSean moves along next year after he's graduated, it's a good spot for him to go to get some PT because he can naturally fold right into that position. But I really thought Kamari Moulton ran hard. Jazz Patterson, he had a drop, didn't he? Early. He had a fumble inside the five-yard line. Yeah. Yeah. And he immediately came out after that. I could tell he was running hard. I would hate to see any of those guys transfer, but I have a feeling somebody's going to, just because that room is loaded with facts. And they're going to say, hey, I'm not going to get the reps here that I really think I should be getting, and so I'm going to transfer somewhere else. I hate to see that because they're quality players. There's always going to be a little bit of attrition at some point where somebody's dinged up a little bit, and you're going to get somebody else in there that's second, third team, maybe even further down, depending on how things go. So you hate to lose good quality players. I understand why they would leave if they do leave. I hope they don't. It's quality players you've got to have, and you've got to have backups that can do the same thing that the starters can do. Yeah, and the one guy that we didn't mention was Caleb Johnson. Dude's built like a truck, man. He is big and strong, and I didn't see him out there a whole lot. He didn't play a lot. I saw what I did see, he was looking more to run the guys over, which I think that's probably more his style. He's more of a downhill runner. You got to remember who you're up against right there, too, the Iowa defense. Right, right, right. Going to be a top three defense in the nation. Again, that's all I'm worried about. He's not going to be facing the Iowa defense. So you can run over the Iowa defense, you can run over a lot of defenses. Exactly. He's probably glad he doesn't have to go against the Iowa defense every game. As for the rest of the offense, I would say I thought that Caleb Brown had a couple of nice catches. Yes, he did. He did have a couple of drops that you don't want to see. Dayton Howard had a nice catch and run at one point. But he did have a drop, also. Two or three drops. Again, there was a few of them that were thrown behind him. So I don't put it all on him. It's kind of that, you know, you think of, if it hits your hand, you really need to catch it. Yeah, I agree with that. But sometimes if it hits your hand and you're stretched back as you're running full speed, it's a little harder. Well, the only one I was thinking about was when he was in the flat, they flat through the ball, it hit him right in the hand and dropped to the ground. Yeah, yeah. That was a little disappointing to see. But by the same token, he is a freshman. And you hope that down the road that that doesn't happen and won't happen coming forward. But it was cold. It was spring. The wind was blowing. I was cold. I was ready to get out of there. The one thing I would say about Dayton Howard to see is he's not very thick. He's a spring bean. Yeah, he's tall. Hey, it looks like he's got some speed to him. Yeah, he's going to need to put on a little muscle. I don't know that they really threw the ball to Jarrett Bowie at all. I didn't see him in there a lot. I did see Caden Wheaton at a touchdown and he looked pretty good. And he's got some speed, too. So I think he could be a contributor kind of in that Charlie Jones type of role, maybe. Absolutely. I was going to say that. And I'd be fine with that. Yeah, he turned out all right. As far as the offensive line and tight ends, tight ends are solid. We did not see Atticus Stringer in there at all. Luke Lachey. It was great to see him back out there. Ascooze was in. Ascooze. Ascooze played well. Kyle Vanderbush had a nice fingertip pitch. I'm not worried about that. I think the tight ends are solid. I think the running backs are solid. Scared a little bit the offensive line. And we'll get to something here coming up in a little bit. We'll talk about that. Quarterback's a big question mark. We did have some guys out. Mason Richman. I don't know if he played a whole lot. Yeah, he was out. Two of his sponsors out. Logan Jones. So you had three guys that were starters that either didn't play much or weren't even dressed. Right. So yeah, not to continue to be a dead horse, but quarterback is the biggest question mark right now. And that is the biggest position on a football field, really. So it's going to determine your season, how your quarterback does a lot of times. So offensive MVP from what you saw yesterday. Terrell Washington Jr. just really impressed me. Kamari Moulton impressed me. I think Drew Stephens played football very well. And we're not talking about special teams, but that is an offensive player. And we'll get to that. Yeah, we'll get to Drew Stephens. Yeah, there was some standouts. There was some- Who do you go with? I like Terrell Washington Jr. out of the slot. He made some good catches and ran some good routes. And I think he's the X factor coming forward in the fall if he can continue to play and progress and learn routes and learn how to run routes. And you can run him a whole lot of different ways, too. You could have him running out of the backfield. You could have him run out of the backfield to catch a screen pass. There's a lot of things about that man, that player. You can run sweeps. Absolutely. End of rounds. A lot of stuff that you could do with him that we haven't had a player like him for a while. Tyda has- he could kind of fill that Tyrone Tracy role. But I think he could do better. Yeah. And I think- Same thing with Tyrone Tracy. But I think it's just he didn't get a lot of activity. Well, I think Tyrone Tracy played out of position. And we kind of saw that when he went to Purdue. He was a running back. And he came in as a wide receiver converted from a running back. So I think he went back to his natural position. He saw he could excel a little bit. Again, we had him at wide receiver out of D more than anything. Right. But I think he could do that. For me, I'd go with Kamari Bolton. I think he ran hard. He really showed me that he is- he's got some elusiveness to him. He's got a little wiggle in the hole that impressed me. And I look forward to seeing him on the field. I think he'll get some time. I hope he's not one of them that thinks, oh, I'm not going to get a lot of time. So I'm going to transfer somewhere else. Because that would be a travesty to not have him on the roster. That kid has got some good talent. Yes. So- I agree with you. Either one of those two, Tyrone Washington or Kamari Bolton, I thought both looked good. You could have went with either one of them. I think would be- I don't think you could argue either one. You know, it would be bad. So yeah. Do you want to talk about special teams real quick? Yeah. Let's go with- Let's start with placekickers. OK. Let's start with placekickers first. Competitions between Drew Stevens and Trip Woody. Trip Woody, a true freshman out of North Carolina. Drew Stevens, a junior out of South Carolina. So you're going to battle the Carolinas here. Drew Stevens definitely has the stronger leg, which you would expect from a guy that's been in the program for three years now. He did have one block. Devin Hilson blocked that. Blocked a field goal. But he did also hit one from 56. Yeah. Which is nice to see. I don't let anybody tell that it was- But it was- That wind kind of struck. Very well. And he hit it the way he needed to. And he made- He missed one early from 56 also. Just came up a little bit short. But then he did drill one later from that same distance. So it's good to see. I think he hit the ball well. And he's striking the ball well. Yeah, I'm not concerned with him. I would be a little more concerned if we had an injury to him. Not that I would say- Trip Woody- Okay, here's my equation. Or here's how I equate Trip Woody. Trip Woody, at this point in his career, a true freshman, blocked the field, is Keith Duncan. But not quite the accuracy of Keith Duncan. So you remember the thing, the knock on Keith Duncan his first couple of years was he didn't have the ability to stretch the distance out beyond, what, 40? I think outside of 40, you brought in Miguel Racinos. So you had the two guys. That's kind of where Trip Woody's at right now. He does not have the distance that Drew Stevens has. And as you said, listening to LeVar Woods talk about him, that being pulled in that Nebraska game and not getting another opportunity to kick the ball in a meaningful situation for a field goal until spring practice, it humbled him. He's like, it's a humbling situation. And sometimes guys need that. They get that air about him of, oh, I don't have much competition behind me. Well, when they aren't afraid to pull you in a crucial situation, bring a guy in and haven't kicked all year, that might tell you something that no position is safe. You have to put out, you have to compete, you have to be your best. And I think he got the message. And I saw a very confident-looking guy yesterday. Yeah, granted, he did have the one block, but I would have no hesitations when it comes to field goals. When we were talking about the two field goal kickers, one of the things I did notice, and it may be the difference between a junior and a freshman, when Drew Stevens kicked the ball, it came up much quicker than the one that was Ty Woody. He seemed like his ball was a lot more flat when it came off, and it just barely would clear the line of scrimmage. So I have a feeling he needs to get under the ball a little bit more and still maintain a good impact on the ball so that the ball comes up off of his foot a lot quicker. That's the only thing I really noticed difference. Obviously, Drew Stevens has a longer range. You already discussed that. I think the difference is between how the ball came up immediately for Drew, and it was a little flatter trajectory when it came off of Ty Woody. Trip Woody. Trip Woody, yeah. I think with him, it was more a situation of he's not got the leg strength, so he has to drive it a little bit more so it's going to come off a little lower trajectory. Right, once he gets that leg strength, then it's going to be a different story. We've seen it with a lot of kickers. I think we're going to be fine down the road. One of the things, Drew Stevens, of course, is just a junior this coming year, and he's going to have another year after this, but I don't think—if Trip Woody stays at Iowa, I think you're just going to see another continuation of Drew Stevens. You're not going to see much of a drop-off. He's going to get stronger. He's going to learn from Drew. He's going to learn from LeVar, and he's going to get better and better and better every year. And he's just going to be able to step right into that role when Drew's graduated. I don't worry too much about kicking at this point, the field goal kicking, anyway, and extra points. That's non-issue, really, to me. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about the other side of the kicking equation, the punting. This is the one that I'm kind of excited. Rhys Dakin and Ty Nissen, they were out there on the field when we got there, kicking the ball, and I think it allowed us to have that opportunity to really focus in on that. What were your observations? And I'll tell you about that. Well, I think Ty Nissen, he kicks the ball very well, and he doesn't have the distance quite yet that Rhys Dakin has. One of the things that I saw Rhys Dakin—we were watching later on when they were doing some punting, like if the offense didn't get enough yards so they would punt, a situational deal—he dropped one at the five-yard line from the other 30, and that had to be a 65-yarder in the air just to get it to that point. Yeah, and that thing was in the air for a long time. And it went up there a long time. He's got tremendous hang time, and we saw that in a video that we saw of him three months ago when they dropped that video of him in Australia kicking. But true to form, he kicked that ball very well. You could feel that. You could just see that ball explode off his foot. And I'm not going to say he's better than Torrey Taylor, and he's not. Definitely not. But he has the opportunity, as he progresses through his junior, senior, sophomore years, to be every bit as good. And that's saying a lot. There's very few punters ever get drafted, and Torrey Taylor probably will be drafted this year. So that tells you how good he is and how good Reece Dakin is going to be. Would he be the second punter drafted out of Iowa in our lifetime with him and Reggie Roby? Maybe. I don't remember any other punter being drafted. And we've had some good ones. Yeah, we've had some good ones. So Nick Gallery was a very good punter back in the day. Baker. Yeah, David Baker? Yeah, he played about 10 years ago, maybe 12. Or longer. Or longer ago, yeah. You know, all these players, you go through the years, they start jumbling in your head. Well, you start thinking, well, it wasn't that long ago that Marvin McNutt and Rick Sands were there. But yeah, it was 15 years ago. Time does jump up on you. So my observations, I thought that, obviously, Dakin has the stronger leg ability, a little more pinpoint accuracy. I was very impressed with Tynus and the spiral that he could put on the ball. Now, you know, that's kind of a lost art now. A lot of these guys are doing the end-over-end type of kick. I did notice, one thing I did kind of feel Reece had in his back pocket that they didn't really show us a lot, but I felt like he kicked a little bit better when he did a little bit more of a rugby move. And that was one, I think he bombed one from down about the five-yard line to maybe the 30, 35-yard line on the other end. And I was like, oh boy, that boy just laid into that. But watching Tynus and the spiral kick that he had, he had one that he angled that was probably 55, close to 55, 60 yards in the air or so. I think he could be a very quality backup. I think it would be very odd if Reece wasn't the starting punter, but if something was to happen, Ty could come in. I thought his delivery and his kick approach was just a little bit slower, and there's a chance that we might get something blocked there. Maybe they could speed that up just a little bit. But from a distance and a punt power, quality backup. He could step right in. Yeah, right. And I hope the Iowa fans don't sit there and think, oh, well, Torrey Taylor is second coming of Torrey Taylor. This kid's going to step right up and be every bit as good. No, don't go that far yet. Let's dial it back. Reece Aiken is going to be a good puncher. He's going to have some issues, though, because punting is new to him, and he's never played in an official game of football yet. So we need to temper that enthusiasm just a little bit. I think he's going to be good, exceptionally good, but he's also going to have, especially his first two years, he's going to have punts where you're like, oh no. Yeah, Torrey Taylor had the same situation. So I just hope that people don't automatically anoint him as the great one and say, well, this punter is going to kick 60 yards every time. We got to dial it back a little bit. The enthusiasm should be there. Absolutely. But don't get crazy. Look at the average of 42, 44 yards per punt. That's... Be happy with that. That'd probably lead the NCAAs or at least get in the top 10, top five probably. Speaking of leading the NCAAs, let's talk a little bit about that defense. I am not concerned one iota about Iowa's defense. I know they lost three starters, Logan Lee, Cooper Dejean, and Joe Evans. I think we just picked that back up. I don't think there's any... Well, with the exception of Dejean... There will be a little drop there, but I think it'll be serviceable and I don't think it'll really... you won't notice much of a drop off. You may not see... Cooper could return punts. He could do a lot of things that maybe we don't have one guy do it. We have to have a couple of different guys do it. One guy maybe does punts. One guy does corner. You don't have the same guy doing it. So in that respect, Cooper's better. But by the same token, when it comes to Iowa defense, Phil Parker's going to have Iowa right there again. I'd say top two or three. When you're talking about Ohio State, Michigan, you're talking about two elite defenses. I think Iowa's going to be right there with them. Penn State will be good. They always are. And then you got your other teams outside of the Big Ten Conference, your Georgias, your Alabamas. They're always going to have a decent defense. And I think you're going to have Iowa right there. Be interesting to see what the Pac-12 newcomers will have on the defensive side, because we know that they have the offensive side. But I think that's been kind of the situation is the other teams don't understand the quality of defenses in the Big Ten. Now, yeah, when you've got a dud offense, it doesn't matter how good your defense is in some games, because you're putting them out on the field way more than, you know, because people will bring up the, well, Tennessee exposed Iowa or Penn State exposed Iowa, Michigan exposed. Well, you're talking pretty elite offenses against a team whose offense couldn't get out of its own way last year. So, you know, you put the defense in bad situations, especially at the Michigan game, because, you know, you take out some of the stupid mistakes, the fumbles, the turnovers, whatever, probably a 12 to nothing game. And it's a defensive slugfest, because I don't know that Michigan would score outside. It wouldn't probably wouldn't have scored a touchdown outside of gifted field position like that. Right. So, you know, again, yeah, I agree. I think I saw a lot of good things out of the defense. Xavier Wampa had a nice, just powerful, basically, it became a Mutombo rejection of a pass. Carson Shire. Carson Shire, yeah, that kid is, yeah, he would be a very, very solid backup linebacker this year, and he'd be able to step right in next year. Early in that practice, he was, yeah, he was all over the place. He intercepted a pass. He batted a pass down. He would have had a quarterback. I mean, every time I turned up, number 43 was right there. He looked good. But yeah, no, he'll be in the mix. And he got a lot of run because, you know, Jay Higgins and Nick Jackson, they participated, but they didn't play a lot, which is by design, I'm sure. And then Tyler Fisher was out. I don't know exactly how much cash they ran. I did see Castro out there a few times. I wasn't really, I looked, you know, when you get into the second team, guys, and again, you're talking, guys have moved on. So I don't know exactly how the depth chart plays out. So I couldn't tell, you know, is this, are we in the nickel? Is this another linebacker that I'm missing? Or is this a corner that's playing the cash? You know, it was hard to tell with the second team, guys. You know, when you get the first team, guys, out there, the backfield and the linebackers, you pretty much know them by heart. You know, Jamari Harris was out. So Jon Nestor was in, in his place. Looked really good. I thought TJ Hall looked good. Another name that popped out was Aiden Hall. In the defensive backfield, I saw Jaden Harrell out there at the linebacker's position. He looked really good. Defensive line, I thought the ends looked good, especially the starting ends. Didn't really see much out of the middle part of the line. But you also had Y.A. Black out and somebody else that was out too. You had basically out of the 11 guys that didn't even dress that were basically starters. So, you know, a lot of those were on the defensive side. That's why I said earlier, I don't think you get a whole lot out of the spring. But, you know, you just get to see guys that, you know, you don't get to see a lot of during the season. You know, your Carson Shires and your Aiden Halls and those guys, you get to see more of them in the spring practice than you do in the fall. You really don't see them much in the fall. But as they climb the depth chart, then you start seeing them more and more. And you're going to see them on special teams and putt coverage and kickoff coverage. You're going to start seeing those guys. Those guys are going to have to set themselves apart doing those things, the special teams, the little things. Well, Nick Jackson and Jay Higgins can't play every play. You know, they need to take a break. And you've got guys that can fill in for them that are of that quality. That's a good thing. And so, you know, it's like we've talked about, you know, Jan Jensen's the post whisperer, Phil Parker's the defense whisperer. And if there's two coaches that I trust implicitly with their jobs, those are the two I would, you know, outside of a head coach. For Phil Parker, absolutely, no question. Yeah. So who would you say, in your opinion, was a defensive MVP? Just from having watched the early part of the practice was 43, Shahr, however you say his name is, Carson Shahr. He was all over the field. And that's who I'd probably go with early. But, you know, like I said, this is very objective. They didn't show a lot. The defense played pretty vanilla defense. I know. Like I said, they don't want to show anything to anybody. And Iowa's defense shouldn't change a lot for anybody anyway. So no, don't mess with what works. For me, I would go with probably go with Devin Hilson. Yeah, got a nice block. The block kit. And I think he had a fumble recover as well. So, you know, I obviously could have gone with Carson as well, because I thought, you know, as we talked at the stands, it keeps us all over the place. And, you know, it would have been easy to pick him. But, you know, I think Devin Hilson needs a little bit of some run in that, because he did play well. And I thought Xavier Wompa played well. Obviously, Quinn Schulte played well, because you didn't even have to hear his name. Right. So, you know, you kind of look at it in the sense of, especially the defensive side, if you're not hearing their name, they're not going at you. Sebastian Castro didn't hear his name much either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, that's a good thing, in my opinion. If you don't hear those guys being called out individually, that's a good thing. Another good thing is no one was hurt and nobody got hurt. I did see one guy kind of reaching for a hamstring or something. Pascuzzi, I think it was. He didn't, I didn't see him out there much after that. He kind of let people know that he was a little tweak, and let's don't make this worse. So, yeah. Big thing was the last practice of the spring. So, you got some time to heal up and keep your stamina up. I think I was just thawed out from that deal yesterday. Just thawed out. It was cold. Cold is relative. If you were in the fall and it was this cold, you'd be like, it's cold. Yeah, nothing. You know, when you're, yeah, yeah. You're coming out of the cold and you don't want to get the warmer. Yeah, it's a completely different situation. The sun came out briefly for like a minute and I was like, oh, this is nice. And then it went back into the clouds and then it got cold again. Well, and in typical Midwestern fashion, it wouldn't have been so bad without the wind. Right. And I hadn't been to Kinnick for a while. So, it was nice to see the North End Zone, what they had done to it. Just to me, having been there and having had tickets for several years there in a row, it just didn't seem like the same place. Of course, I didn't ever usually sit on the Iowa side. And it just didn't seem like the same place that I used to go to all the time because of the way they had the North End Zone seating all changed and the boxes that people could sit in and get out of the weather. Well, that'd be nice. Back in our day, the North End Zone, beyond that was the street and then beyond that was the bubble. Yeah. And that's not there. That's just putting up a parking ramp there. This has changed a lot. As that, what did they say? What's that old song? Paid Paradise and put up a parking ramp? Well, parking lot, but in this case, parking ramp. Right. That was paradise for Hayden Fry back in the day. That bubble, because that was his baby. But they have a different bubble. Basically, it's not a bubble anymore. It's more of an actual facility. Yeah, it's a building. Yeah, it has changed a lot. It has. It has changed a lot. In the last, I'd say, 12 to 14 years, it has changed dramatically. I'd say it's changed a lot since I was up there in 2019. Yeah, but it was good to get back. It was good to sit in the stands, good to see other Hawkeye fans. It was good to watch Kirk Ferentz roam the field and see Tim Lester for the first time in person. It was a good time. I'm glad we went, even though it was cold. And hopefully- I think we should go back in the fall camp in the fall practice, open practice, and do a little comparison and contrast from spring to fall. Yeah. Hopefully, it's not 700 degrees and you're baking like a dog. It'll be August. So, let's put a bow on this all tonight. All right, we'll wrap up on that and we'll talk again next week. So, as always, check us out on Facebook and Twitter. I did not have a question of the week. I don't have one. I don't have one either. I didn't think about it. I think we could probably go without one this week. Give everybody a little bit of a break. Give us a chance to think of something. Maybe we'll start doing a little bit more football-oriented, so people have to start thinking football in their minds to answer those questions. Maybe we'll do something along the lines of your top five running backs of all time in your lifetime. Yeah, let's do that. Let's just say, give us your top five running backs of your lifetime. Does not have to be of the Kirk Ferenc. I mean, obviously, people that were out there that Kirk Ferenc was the only coach they've known, that would be your lifetime. With us, we can go back to the Hayden Fry era. Actually, we can go back before the Hayden Fry era if we really wanted to, but I don't remember watching a lot of Iowa football before Hayden Fry got here. Because Iowa football was not good prior to Hayden Fry. Yeah, let's go on that. Let's say top five running backs of all time for you, for your lifetime. We'll give you our picks next week and see how they compare. There's been a lot of really good running backs this past year at the University of Iowa. And to me, it's probably going to be more of a, maybe not so much top five from production, but more of a top five favorites. You know, these are guys that I love to watch and play. I'm leaning that way too. I think it's just going to be a top five of who I think I like the best. Yeah. So, all right. As I said, catch us on Facebook, Twitter. Keep up with us there. Check us out on Linktree. Email us. Let us know what you want to hear, what you don't want to hear, what you want to see. From us going forward and we'll see what we can do to accommodate. And like I said, if you do drop a comment on the Facebook page of something you want to see, we'll give you a shout out on the over the air. Maybe you'd like to have question of the week. Maybe you'd like to have, you know, we can use your question of the week sometime. Yeah. Okay, great. Drop a question of the week down. We'll use it. All right. As always, thanks for listening and we will catch you next week. Go Hawks. Go Hawks. Go Hawks.