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Ms. Jennifer shares her nursing journey and how she transitioned to remote work. She discusses her experience with different nursing roles and her decision to switch to remote nursing after having her first baby. She explains how she researched and tailored her resume to land remote nursing roles, and shares her success in obtaining multiple remote nursing jobs. She also discusses the flexibility and work-life balance that remote nursing offers, especially for mothers. The conversation highlights the opportunities and advancements in remote nursing, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. Welcome to the NursiConnect podcast. My name is Ava. I'm the Chief Executive and Founder of the Remote Nurse Strategy Agency, NursiConnect. And on this podcast, we talk about all things remote nursing. Today, we do have a very special guest. We're going to get into all the things that she's done, all her experiences. And I'm super excited to have her on the show. I will let her introduce herself. Welcome, Ms. Jennifer. Well, hello there. Thank you for having me on. My name is Jennifer. I've done a wide variety of nursing roles and triage roles, quality assurance, risk management, a wide variety of remote nursing roles, and I am now helping transform bedside nurses or new mothers and anybody really looking for a change or an advancement into their career to maybe try the remote world and give that a chance. All right, Ms. Jennifer. Can you tell us a little bit more about your nursing journey, what you did before you got to remote work, all the way back to nursing school? Let us know your whole story here. Yes. So I have been in health care for 15 years, and I obtained my CNA when I was 18. So from the time I was 18, I was a CNA, and then I went to the advanced CNA schooling. Then I worked in a lab, so I worked in nursing homes, private home care, obtained my first hospital job on the floor. It was a med surg tele floor. As a CNA, I kind of realized this probably wasn't for me, and that's okay. And that's when I went to EMT paramedic schooling, which I completed that. Got out and realized there wasn't a tremendous amount of opportunities for me with those certifications, so I went to registered nursing school, and I actually did an accelerated nursing program. I started out at a local community college. I received all my prereqs to get into the nursing program. I went through Purdue Global, okay, Purdue Global University, and I obtained my registered nursing through an advanced schooling course. So I've been a nurse for about six years. Six years in July will be my mark. Okay, and then can you tell us a little bit about how you ended up transitioning from in-person to outward? What was your first job? So I obtained my first work-from-home role at about a year and eight months of being a nurse. I currently work in the OR, and I transitioned to dialysis nursing. I worked through COVID, and I worked through my first pregnancy. Once I had my first baby, I decided that I didn't want to go back to work. I needed to figure something out to stay at home, be with the baby, and also not pay for daycare. So I started researching how to write a resume, how to obtain a remote job, what they're looking for, the job description skills and qualifications, what they want us to be proficient in when we're applying for these roles, and I altered my resume over and over and over, and I received denial, denial, denial, denial, denial for about a year. And I thought, okay, I'm doing something wrong. That's when I discovered Jobscan and SkillsInker and TEAL. They're all ATS tracking systems that review your resume before it goes to a recruiter. So every resume I did, I would tailor it to the specific criteria of the job I wanted, and it would scan, see if it matched a percentage, and send it to those roles. So once I figured out how to do that, I landed my first remote nursing role, and I did quality assurance and risk management for about two years. How did you find out about, like, Jobscan and all of that? What made you, like, put the dots together to do that and then submit your resume in? So YouTube. YouTube, so I used their – I have to figure something out. I'm doing something wrong. I knew I had a background in health care. There's something that I can do. It may have not been a strong registered nursing background, but I have the health care knowledge, and I thought I would be a great asset to a company if I could figure out how to get through to a recruiter to land an interview. So once I figured out how to scan my resume, how to tailor it to those algorithms, every single job I applied for, I received calls, emails, some denials, which is expected. There's other people that are better fits, and that's okay. But I realized I constantly kept receiving job offers and job interviews from recruiters, and I thought, there's something to this. And this is when I obtained one job, and then I obtained another job, and then a PRN job, and then a contract job, part-time job, a full-time job, and I worked some of these simultaneously together. And here I am, tripling, doubling my income every month. So you absolutely can. You don't have to stick with your 312. You can do 312 at this company. You can do 312 at that company. You can do remote patient monitoring from your phone PRN. You can do it all, all the time. So it kind of sounds like you had your – well, you got pregnant. You were working on the floor as a pregnant nurse. I did the same thing. And then you left. You were home with your baby. Then you turned to bedside nursing, and it was just a no. That's what kind of smart technology is like. So I went back. I did nights for a little bit. I was a night nurse just because the baby slept. And, you know, I was doing my motherly duties. I needed to be with her all the time. So I did night call. I did that for a couple months, and I realized I can't do this, especially with a new baby. There has to be a different way. I'm so tired. Leaving all the time with the baby, I didn't trust anybody with her. She was so little. I had some little complications with her when she was born, so I was very protective over her at that point. I have to be home. I can't show her daycare. I didn't have grandparents or anybody that were going to watch my kids for free. So I had to figure it out myself, and I did. That was your first job? Yes, for the first baby, yes. That's when I got my first remote job. Yeah, okay. Yeah, same thing. I started working from home. My daughter was eight months. I went back to bedside. Yep, after maternity leave, I was like. And I wasn't trying to look for remote work. It just kind of happened. But once you go remote, it just – You don't go back? Yeah. You don't go back? Yeah, I wasn't trying to go back either. And then, like you were talking about the 312, that's what really attracted me to virtual nursing was that it was still 312, fully remote. Like I still felt like I had that flexibility that I wanted at the bedside, because I know a lot of nurses, that's their hang-up. Leaving the bedside, that's 312. And it's nice to just have for the eight days off, you know, at the bedside. But it's tiring. It's exhausting. So I really like that, you know, virtual nursing kind of offered that for me. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's been pretty cool. COVID, you know, it was a normal thing that happened to the whole world society that we live in. But it provided a lot of opportunity for a remote rollout for the medical field, which has been a huge, huge help to keeping patients out of the hospital, having that direct communication with a healthcare provider where we can assess and triage and provide guidance from then on if they have symptoms that they're concerned about. There's been a lot of advancements, and trying to get it out there, I think you are. I think we're both on the same page, showing people that there's a different route, there's a different style of nursing you can do. You're not isolated to one type. You certainly can do one type, absolutely. Or you can do both, like I do both. Yeah, COVID definitely flipped the world upside down. It forced everybody to rely on technology, and the expertise of the nurse is needed in person and remotely. So I think that, just like you said, it really opened up the opportunity for nurses to have more options and more flexibility. Because as nurses, we love options. We love working our PRNs, our part-time, going to be in person today, remote tomorrow. We've got multiple jobs at once. Exactly. That's just how it is. Yeah, that's just how we do. Yeah. Okay. So we're talking about, let's shift the conversation a little bit. We're talking about motherhood and nursing. Let's talk about kind of like your work-life balance. How has that been, working remotely, working your job, kids, life? What has that been like for you? So I've had a couple different roles. I've had some where that I'm on the phone more than others. That has been a little bit more of a struggle than the other ones where I'm not. I've had ones where I did virtual assessments and discharges, as well as just popped in and did some VPO monitoring for patients if they're on safety precautions. So when my kids were little, little, it was a lot easier. But then I kind of gravitated to more of like the hiatus review and the quality assurance reviews where I'm not on the phone as much. And you can do pretty much anything. You have a TV. They have their toys. They're with you. You can get up and play with them. You can answer your phone calls. You can feed them. There's all sorts of alternatives you can do with your children at home. I've kept them both home. I have two now. I have a one-year-old, and now a three-year-old as of Tuesday. And I've kept them both home with me. Oh, my goodness. I know. I've kept them both home with me. I haven't seen them die in child care. I know where they're at at all times. They have a TV playroom. I have an office that's there with me. I'm always there if they need me. I can cook them lunch. I can fold laundry. They can have a bath while I'm working on my laptop. I have balanced out wonderful working from home. There's just been so many benefits for myself and my kids that I couldn't go back to a full-time role, getting up, waking my kids up when they're not ready to get up, shoving them in daycare, running through traffic at 7, 8 o'clock in the morning where they can sleep till 9. They can sleep in. I'm already working. Sometimes the job I have now, I work sometimes 5.30 or 6 to noon. But they're asleep till 9. And so when they wake up, we have breakfast, and I'm pretty much done. Have their bath, and we get up and we go for the day. Exactly. There's a lot of balance. And I wouldn't recommend telling people that you want to work from home because you have babies because they know that. You've got to keep that a secret. I just always kept that pretty quiet with people. I never let them know I had children, and they never asked. So I did things behind the scenes, and they made it happen, and I'm still making it happen. All they need to see is the work is getting done, and that's it. Now, it sounds like your position now is, like, not as patient-facing. It's more behind the scenes. You're doing more doctor-patient-type work, right? Okay. My role is a little bit if there are nurses listening that work, like, still talking to patients. Mine still requires me to talk to patients, but it's still, like, there's still flexibility in it. It's still in the hospital. So in the hospital, they're not doing admission and discharges every second of the day. So it's like there's times where it's like, and then there's times where it's like, that's when I can, like, step away, give my baby a snack. Like you said, the toys, go outside, go for a walk. So to put two kids in daycare is $3,000. I'm not doing that. I'll find a way, and I'll find a way, and I did, and it may be a little harder than something that doesn't have kids, but I don't care. I made it happen, and I'm going to keep making it happen. I'm going to daycare, and I'm not paying for it, and I'm not going to quit working. Yeah. For me, it was paying for parking at the hospital, which was crazy, right? Yes. So even if it wasn't for work, I had to pay every month. They would take money out of my check to park, and they gave us a raise, and guess what they did? It went up on parking. So I was like, oh, my God. Exactly. So it was like it's not even worth it. The gas, paying for parking, they're trying to put her in childcare somewhere, like you said, 3K a month or more. It's just constant finances and toll passes and traffic and gas and uniforms and coffee, which is fun, cafeterias, a gift shop, participating and paying for everybody's baby showers. There's just so much that goes with an in-person job, and people don't realize that, you know, one of the biggest complaints, actually, is people quit their job because of parking on the resumes I've done. Really? I don't have that here, but we get parking tickets if we're not in our designated area, which is clear in China versus the hospital. Yes. It's one lock in the winter and in the rain, so, you know. Yes. But, you know, there's a lot more benefit to working at home, even if you – people are always confused if they're – they don't want to take a pay cut, but that's not a pay cut. Even if you take $5,000 less just to land your foot in the door, you're still not paying for parking. You're still not paying for uniforms. You're still not paying for daycare. You're still not dealing with any of the stuff, the traffic that comes along with driving to those jobs. Afternoons, endless stress. You're at your house, you know. You're comfortable here. Your pets are here. Your kids are here. Your stuff is here. You don't have to fight with anybody. You don't have to rely on anybody to do the job. It is completely in your hands. How you work at your own pace is how you can get through the day. So, you work at your own pace. You don't really need anybody else to help you. Right. And you kind of opened up the next segment about pay. We're talking about all these benefits. And another one of the things I get a lot of my comments on TikTok is the pay. Now, it does depend on where you are and what type of virtual or remote nursing that you are doing. So, for me, I'm in North Carolina. At the bedside, I was making like $35 an hour, and now I'm making like $32, which I was okay with that because of everything that was happening. Like you said, I'm bringing in more money because I'm not paying in gas, in child care, like I'm not chasing my tail every paycheck trying to get. So, in my experience, to me, it was worth it. I don't know. What would you say about your experience with pay? So, that's what I did. I went down. I went down. I took a lower pay. I think it was $33. It's what? I live in Iowa, which is already a lower-paying nursing state. So, I took about $32, $33 for my first, first job. And then that's when I got the experience, and I learned the policies and procedures, and I applied for another job and another job. And the trick with the HR is they'll ask you, what are you currently making right now? And they want to know exactly what you're making so they can give you $0.50 more than your range. So, I would tell them, I make $38. All right, we'll give you $38.50 or $39. Okay. And then the next job I got hired, I won't take anything less than $40. All right, we'll give you $41. I started figuring something out. There's a pattern to this. You know, there's a pattern, and this doesn't apply for big hospital systems because HR does regulate those. These do apply for other companies, such as, like, Sigma, Centene, all these places, Palmer Group, anything that is hiring to have a standard set rate that you can't alter. But every other company I landed with, I said, okay, I'll go $40, $45. Then one day, I said, $47. Oh, here's $50. I went, what? This works. Somebody told me to do this, and my biggest fear at the time was saying, all right, I better take it because I'm not going to get it. Well, I thought, well, I know what I can add to the company. I know I'm a good employee, a good asset. The job will be done efficiently and correctly. So, I am worth that amount of money. And so, I did. I advocated for it. I said, I won't take anything less than this because I know what I can bring to your company, what I can provide. And I got the pay every single time, every single time. I don't know if it came with a little bit of age. In my 20s, I was more lenient toward the green with everybody that was a little more superior. All right, I'll just take it. I'll take it. Hit my 30s, and I said, you know, I'm not doing this anymore. I'll take 45. And I quit, and I came back, and I got $14 more an hour. Let's transition the conversation now into another, I feel like, controversial topic in remote nursing, and it's skills, okay? See, yeah, you're laughing too. How do you feel remote nursing has impacted your nursing skills? I'll go first. Honestly, I am content where I am as a nurse. The knowledge and the skills that I need to do my remote nursing position, I am very good at it, and I'm very good at it. So, I'm going to just leave that at that. What do you think, Jennifer? So, I still do PR and dialysis, and I do that mainly for a break out of the house, and I still like that job. I still like my boss and my coworkers, so I still enjoy that type of work. Depending on what you get involved in, when you're a nurse, you know how to be a nurse. You can pick right up where you started. It's not, you know, rocket science here. It's pretty easy to get right back in and get your feet wet. I guess it just depends what you're worried about. Are you worried about placing a fully? Are you worried about an IV? I mean, you'll figure it out again, because I left for a year and a half and came back, and I bounced right back. So, you can do both, or you can do both like I do. Yeah, a lot of my coworkers that work every shift as a virtual nurse, and then they'll go to the hospital, PR, and then work the shift. But personally, I feel like with inpatient virtual nursing, you're still using your critical thinking. Like, I had to go sign off on some FFTs for a patient that had an elevated INR. You know, we still had to go through all of the processes of why it is happening, how does the patient look during the transfusion, what do I need to escalate to the doctor. So, I feel like inpatient virtual nursing, you're at the bedside, but you're not at the bedside. But you're still doing it. No, yes. The nurse will call on the floor. She's like, I need the coaching here now. And you page. You page the operator. Hey, and then I pop in on the monitor, and I would watch the code. I'd order the lab, message the providers while they're in the middle of their code or any sort of dilemma. So, with that, I was like, okay, I'm cool with this. Like, this is my speed. This is my flavor of Kool-Aid. I like this. This is nice. You don't essentially lose your skills. You'll always know how to be a nurse. You're just going to use the other skills more so than your physical skills. So, you're just going to use your critical thinking in a different form. Yeah, exactly. And you said you were part of a code as a virtual nurse. How was that for you? You just kind of glazed over it. But that's a weird. Do you guys use Teladoc at all? In your hospital, do you have any monitors where you can pop in and talk to them? Yeah. Other TV screens? On the TV. The Wild Mouth. We just pop in, knock on. We do a virtual knock. It's a virtual knock, yep. And you turn the camera on. But for the code, the code that I did, there was no virtual knock. You just turn the camera on, and you start documenting. You're basically the scribe. Yes, that's what I did. I was a scribe, and then I messaged the providers, and they'd look at me and say, hey, I need you to call this and reach out to family. And I would message family or call family through my work phone during those times. And I had something called Cisco Jabber, which is a – do you have Jabber? Uh-uh, no. It's a phone dialing system on my computer, so I could – it was a direct hospital line. It was part of their VPN, so I was able to call from a medical number from my house. And then let family know. And I had PerfectServe, which is an app, which is a direct line to physicians, whereas nurses on the floor, they can only send you a message, and they can read it. They won't respond back. I had direct access to anybody with that. We have a lot of responsibility, you guys. I took on a lot of floors. I had a lot of nurses, a lot of orders to review, a lot of orders charged to clean up, things that were appropriate and not appropriate. It was a pretty – virtual nursing was pretty cool. I can say it was pretty cool. With all the different varieties of nursing, I think that's really making a pretty big breakthrough here for our medical system. I just heard or, yeah, I just heard the other day they're starting to implement it on mother-baby units, virtual nursing. See how that goes. Okay. Yes. Okay. All right. We'll let it – I don't know how you're going to do that. They'll find a way. They'll find a way. Yeah, they will. I'm a game for it. So I did a pretty big variety of remote nursing roles, actually, and kind of learned what I like, what I don't like, something I'm not really into, something that I prefer a little bit more. There's a lot of flexibility. There's so much flexibility. Yeah. What would you say was your least favorite, Kenzie? My least favorite? I would say probably CDI specialist because I was – because I just felt like I was tied to my computer a lot more. Yeah. Everything was timed. So CDI specialist and then quality assurance. When I audited charts, there was a certain time frame. You had to hurry up and get through them and get through them and get through them. I didn't care for that. I didn't like the rat race of hurrying up and doing 20, 30 reviews, do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't like that. Yeah. So doing jobs where you're constantly like go, go, go, go, go, go, go, that wasn't what I like to do. I like to take my time to thoroughly review it and make sure it does align whereas everything was timed was one of the companies I worked for and I didn't care for that. Yeah. That doesn't sound fun. It sounds like a form of micromanagement that you have to – Well, you couldn't even look away and your computer timed out. Their mouse would time out after 30 seconds if you weren't touching it. It would time out and time out and then it would flag every single time. So if you went to the bathroom, it flagged you, it flagged you, it flagged you. Oh, my God. And I did not include that company in my remote list. I took what I could just to get my foot in the door and just to try it. Probably not for me, that was kind of a pain in the ass, but not all of those jobs are like that by any means. No, not at all. Yeah, that's specifically that company. Each role will be specific to the company and what they expect out of that. Yep. All right, we're wrapping up the show here. So what would you say the best part of being a nurse is for you? What keeps you nursing? I love the variety of nursing I can do. Your nursing degree is so universal. You can do anything with it, bedside, oncology, pediatrics, OB, emergency. You can work as a paramedic. You can work at insurance, weight loss clinics. You can work remote, law firms, data extracting, nurse case managers. You can do anything with it, anything. And, overall, it's just the fact that you have a universal license. You get to help people. You get to grow your career and your knowledge. You get to build your background, and you get to learn all the aspects that create our healthcare system, and you're a part of that. And I've grown with companies. I've started our virtual nursing. I was one of the first virtual nursing nurses that were hired. I've grown with them. I've watched the processes improve. I've helped implement strategies on what I think would be better as far as certain criteria that they were expecting. I think this would work out better. And they really took into consideration a lot of what we had to say working from home. So, I really have been a part of a lot of process improvement and quality improvement and changing things and advocating for things that I didn't feel were appropriate for a virtual nurse to do. If you weren't directly there, I don't think it was necessarily our responsibility to document certain things or medications. Certain things we didn't do like medications. I wasn't comfortable documenting somebody's medications, but I did co-sign insulin because I saw it. I could zoom in, things like that. But if you gave a medication and you called it 10 minutes later, I'm most likely not going to charge that for you just because I wasn't there. If I was in the room, absolutely. So, there's things like that. I hope I'm answering enough. Yeah, you are. Nursing is, I heard somebody say on TikTok, it's the top tier profession just because of everything that you listed. Like, if you get tired of one job, you just go to another one, pick it up, pay. I mean, they need us. So, you know, like you said, you can advocate. It's okay for you. Yeah, you can advocate for your pay. You know, you're like, you're really in charge of your career and your license. You're not, you know, a backseat driver in nursing. Like, you got that nursing license? That's yours? You are the driver. And a lot of people sometimes I feel like in the medical system are bullied into staying complacent in a job that they don't want to because of fear. What if I leave? Or I'm going to lose my benefits. This person's not going to give me a good review. I don't want to stay PRN. Or I want to stay PRN. They're not going to. So a lot of people don't leave because they have a fear of what's on the other side. Am I going to get treated better? You're almost submissive to people if they don't treat you well. So people stay in an environment that they don't want to work in. Now, I don't – I've worked in jobs where I don't care for my current job now in the hospital. I absolutely love it. I have literally the best boss you could ever ask for, the best teammates, the best coworkers. We all work together so nicely. And I work one or two days a week just to kind of get out of the house. But I really think that – and I have all them asking me questions. And I've done some of their resumes. Like, hey. I'm like, guys, I can help you, especially if you have all of these years of experience and your background. Hey, like, you're a great asset to a lot of these companies. You really are. And as far as companies, a lot of people – here's some free information for you. A lot of people don't think. They think they're just working for hospital systems. Well, you guys can work for medical device companies. You guys can work for people like companies like Baxter, Johnson & Johnson, Zoll Medical, Stryker. You can work for anybody that creates the medical devices. And who better to work for than somebody that's actually operated it? Who better? You can do that. There are a million companies that will hire nurses. And it's not just hospitals. What would you say to all the nurses listening to the podcast who aspire to work from home or to get into virtual or remote nursing? What is, like, the top piece of advice you have for them? You've been dropping gems all podcast. You're going to have to jump. You're going to have to do it. You're going to have to really, really get real with yourself and decide where you as an individual want to go, not where your family wants to go, not where your boss wants you to go, your friends, your nurses, all your coworkers. You need to really sit down with yourself and decide where you see yourself in five years, where you see yourself in ten years, even a year. You need to look at the reality of your career, what you're doing, the pay scale you're making, and you need to visualize a different outcome. If you desire to make $100,000 as a nurse in a year, you can do that. But you can't do it if you don't leave your comfort zone. You can't do it if you aren't willing to learn from somebody else that's been there. You can't do it if you don't take the instructions and the guidance to obtain these roles and to move forward. You can't do it. So you're going to have to get real with yourself and really sit down and figure out where you want to go, who you want to be, what your future looks like, what type of wife, what type of mother, husband, what type of parent do you want to be with your career, with your family, and how you're going to tie all that in. It really is just when you're ready to jump, you'll jump. Yeah, exactly. I think one of the things that was almost kind of keeping me at the bedside from making the jump from remote to or from inpatient to remote was, like, I don't know. It was more like the stigma around nursing. Like, the other nurses were telling me, oh, you're just going to go home and answer phones all day when you could be going X, Y, and Z. Like, they were really making me feel like, oh, my God. So I was just taking in what everybody else was saying and not what I really wanted to do. I almost let it stop me. I was this close. I almost let it stop me. No, no, and that's why I say don't listen to anybody. You need to really sit down with yourself and make that decision. What you want to do. And don't ask anybody's opinion. When it's time for you to change your life and become a better version of you and where you see yourself, your future as a person, as whatever you see yourself, you need to make that decision and you need to be quiet about it and you need to do the work behind the scenes and you need to make that jump. But it's going to take you to actually go in there and do it. And a lot of people, when I do their resumes for them, they want to keep it a secret because they're leaving. They don't want anybody to sour their experience, give them any bad juju, or they don't want people's opinions. They don't. And they want to keep it private. And I do keep that information private. But they're done. They want out of it. They gracefully leave and they start a new life. And we part ways. And if they need me again, we collaborate later on. But, you know, I've changed their life. It's changed my life. I've allowed different paths and avenues for them to move forward. So it really is a cool thing to see people actually do it. But just like anything, you know, if you're on a weight loss journey or a career journey, you're just going to have to take that first step. You're going to have to do it. You're going to have to let the fear go and do it. All right, Ms. Jennifer. Can you tell all the nurses where they can find you if they want to learn more about you? You want to kind of reiterate what they should do again for nurses? Sure. So right now I offer resume writing services for nurses to obtain remote positions from home. I also offer massive lists for NPs, PAs, LPs, LVS, and RS. These are all remote companies that are hiring. And they're full-time, part-time, PRN. I have over 200 companies, 75 nurse practitioner and PA companies, and over 90 companies for LPN and LVNs. I do have those in my bio. If you need services as far as resume writing, the resume does come with those remote job lists. And we just kind of want to fix it up, fix it and clean it up and get you sent out to the corporate world. So I do offer those. I take about four a day as of right now. And if I'm on TikTok, I haven't expanded to Instagram because my TikTok is so busy. And I'm kind of a one-man band, so I am getting back to everybody. But, yes, I'm definitely looking for somebody like you to place those nurses too. If you have that information, I'd love to collaborate and get people into those roles and once doing people's resumes and seeing what kind of background they have, what would be a better fit for them as a nurse. And the TikTok, jmayersrn.com. Or, like I said, that's my email, but jmayersworkfromhome. And that's how you'll find me or you'll just see me scrolling through your page and you can definitely tag me. So I'd love to help. I do get back to my emails and I do have a website, so I do respond back to those in a timely manner. All right, y'all. And I will put all of Jennifer's information in the description box, podcast notes, whatever it's called. It will be under the episodes of the podcast. You can click her link and go straight to all her sources. Again, my name is Ava. I'm the chief executive and founder of the Remote Nurse Staffing Agency, Nursing Connect. We look to place inpatient virtual nurses, remote nurse case managers, and psychiatric nurse practitioners. Also, Nursing Connect just became a continuing education provider, so we will be offering different types of training for nurses. Right now, I'm working on an inpatient virtual nursing course. That will be done by the end of the summer. And there's an AIA nursing course and a psychiatric nursing course for remote nurses. And I will link the link so that you can put your email in and get notified when the course releases if you're interested in getting out. Okay? Thank you, Jennifer, so much for being on the show. Y'all, thank you for listening. See you next week. Good night. Good night.