Andie talks with noted author and journalist Matthew Hongoltz-Hetling about his most recent book The Ghost Lab, where he went deep into the realm of ghost hunting and the erosion of American instutitions. It's a really fun debate about allowing for a little woowoo in a material world. Please support on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/cw/andiemaintellsjokes or you can venmo Andie for stickers and other cool stuff @andie-main. Check our her art at andiemain.org!